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I agree. Here is another thing, what if you decided to call that number and Jason answered. Then you could say, well that isn't the sign I asked for. Room for doubt...yes?
OK, what would you say to this (which is what happened):
I was trying to think of a good example of a really specific thing that could happen to make me question my views about God-given signs. As I was thinking, my cell phone rang. It was a number I didn't recognize, but I answered. The guy apologized for the wrong number. So, that's why I decided to use a wrong number situation for my example.
Now, some might call that in itself a sign, by giving me the inspiration. And if so, should the specific number and name I mentioned ever come up, it would be an ever bigger deal. Essentially, it comes down to sending me a sign that I wouldn't recognize as a sign (since wrong numbers are far from uncommon) in order to set me up for a sign that I would recognize as one!
Convert to what, exactly, in your opinion?YES or NO -- did Darwin [hopefully] make a deathbed conversion?
In your opinion, of course.
Still pretty specific, so it'd be tough to dismiss. But say it was another number, from the same area code, asking for Jim. So same region, same initial. Should I accept that as a sign? Even if it happens far into the future?
Still pretty specific, so it'd be tough to dismiss. But say it was another number, from the same area code, asking for Jim. So same region, same initial. Should I accept that as a sign? Even if it happens far into the future?
But now because you have said this, what if that exact thing happened?
Good point! But I could come up with countless other variations on the theme, and each time it reduces the possibility of it being a sign. A number off by two digits, from James. A number off by three digits, from Mason. If I make enough predictions, one is sure to come out right (or at least, close enough to being almost sort of right).
...God always leaves room for doubt.
Free will, of course.
Why? What's the point in that?
God always wants it to be a choice.
Why? What's the point in that?
Free will, of course.
Rubbish. That would in no way take away my choice to believe it.
God always wants it to be a choice.
Uh, no. Quality of life has vastly improved as the U.S. has moved to become a secular nation.Yes, true. I could say that the United States was at its best, Christians were pretty united in faith, at least in most of the basic tenets of faith. That has changed, and some Christians have decided that those things that were once considered tenets of the faith are not. Our culture has changed and so has the way some in our faith have come to believe. I think that has something to do with it, but that is just opinion. Again, no proof, just thoughts.
How does he see it differently?You misunderstood what I said. I said God sees death differently, not Christians.
Not unusual.I guess that would depend on what you mean by uncommon.
Told ya.
Even if he left no doubt, the choice would still be there. I don't follow that logic.
He likes when we choose Him even when it seems to hard to do so. It allows us to learn to love Him rather than just worship without feelings. He loves us so He wants us to be able to love Him too.
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