How many Seventh Day Adventists are Anthropomorphite in theology?

[Pythons]

I know officially ( at this time ) the SDA Church rejects the Anthropomorphite view of God...
...Despite this there appears to be a very large number of SDA's who still hold to this teaching.
...Feel free to sound off and say why or why you don't believe that doctine.

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

I know officially ( at this time ) the SDA Church rejects the Anthropomorphite view of God...
...Despite this there appears to be a very large number of SDA's who still hold to this teaching.
...Feel free to sound off and say why or why you don't believe that doctine.

Intead of everyone using Google to find out what 'the Anthropomorphite view' is, why don't you dumb down the question for the benefit of us that didn't go to seminary....

 

[Pythons]

Intead of everyone using Google to find out what 'the Anthropomorphite view' is, why don't you dumb down the question for the benefit of us that didn't go to seminary....

Anthropomorphite theology says that if we have arms than God does as well. Basically it says God has a body with all the members and parts of a human man.

Anthropomorphites say this about God the Father and Christ prior to the incarnation.

 

[k4c]

Anthropomorphite theology says that if we have arms than God does as well. Basically it says God has a body with all the members and parts of a human man.

Anthropomorphites say this about God the Father and Christ prior to the incarnation.

After studying the Scriptures what difference would it make if one came to a conclusion, for or against, God having arms and legs?

 

[doc8645]

Gen.1:26 "Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness....."

 

[Pythons]

After studying the Scriptures what difference would it make if one came to a conclusion, for or against, God having arms and legs?

Well for one it's a pagan concept as Zeus and all the pagan god's / Titans all were understood...
...To have bodies with organs, members and parts.

The concept of the God of Abraham was a radical departure from all the previous so called god's...
...The ancient Hebrew understanding that carried through to Christ was that.
...Anthropomorphisms were used in human terms so humans could understand them.

Such as when Scripture says God has arms it doesn't mean God has arms...
...But that God could do anything we could do with our arms only in an infinite sense.
...So to with eyes, ears, nose, etc.

To add to that the SDA theological handbook repudiates an anthropomorphite understanding of God...
...As Ellen White clearly had such an understanding I was only wondering what gives here.
...And how SDA theology is passed down ( as in what is actually taught and required to be held as an article of faith ).

 

[k4c]

Well for one it's a pagan concept as Zeus and all the pagan god's / Titans all were understood...
...To have bodies with organs, members and parts.

The concept of the God of Abraham was a radical departure from all the previous so called god's...
...The ancient Hebrew understanding that carried through to Christ was that.
...Anthropomorphisms were used in human terms so humans could understand them.

Such as when Scripture says God has arms it doesn't mean God has arms...
...But that God could do anything we could do with our arms only in an infinite sense.
...So to with eyes, ears, nose, etc.

To add to that the SDA theological handbook repudiates an anthropomorphite understanding of God...
...As Ellen White clearly had such an understanding I was only wondering what gives here.
...And how SDA theology is passed down ( as in what is actually taught and required to be held as an article of faith ).

The God of creation was before all false gods. Many of the false gods mimic the one true God. There a pagan false gods who have a trinity nature. Satan loves to ask questions that don't need to be asked in order to cause divisions within the body of Christ.

 

[Pythons]

The God of creation was before all false gods. Many of the false gods mimic the one true God. There a pagan false gods who have a trinity nature. Satan loves to ask questions that don't need to be asked in order to cause divisions within the body of Christ.

The Seventh Day Baptists are not Anthropomorphite....
...And according to the information I was able to pull for SDA - they are not either.
...At least officially.

 

[k4c]

The Seventh Day Baptists are not Anthropomorphite....
...And according to the information I was able to pull for SDA - they are not either.
...At least officially.

And does it make a difference?

 

[Pythons]

And does it make a difference?

If the church one belongs to advocates that they teach true doctrines....
...Then that would require that the members of that church abide by those doctrines.
...So yes, it makes all the difference.

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

Don't think that the current 'official' position of the GC represents what God intended for His last day church to be... there is much apostacy within our ranks that goes right to the top. The influence of Kellog, Prescott, Froome and Ford, among others, has changed the face of Adventism from what it was intended to be.

 

[Pythons]

Don't think that the current 'official' position of the GC represents what God intended for His last day church to be... there is much apostacy within our ranks that goes right to the top. The influence of Kellog, Prescott, Froome and Ford, among others, has changed the face of Adventism from what it was intended to be.

I had understood that Ford was essentially ejected from the SDA denomination...
...Due to being unable to agree with certain prophetic utterances of Ellen White.

Kellogg also was removed from the Church shortly after openly saying he had accepted the Trinity Doctrine...
...I don't understand how those two infuenced SDAism given they were both removed?

I understand Le Roy Froom was a key player in "Questions on Doctrines" being published...
...Of which I have a copy however I dont remember anything about Anthropomorphism being listed as belief.
...I guess I will have to check that out once I can get back home.

To be honest I don't think any Church today is what God would like it to be....
...I know for a fact the Catholic Church has a ton of rats in it.

 

[Stryder06]

If the church one belongs to advocates that they teach true doctrines....
...Then that would require that the members of that church abide by those doctrines.
...So yes, it makes all the difference.

This isn't a matter of doctrine though, so what's your point?

 

[Pythons]

This isn't a matter of doctrine though, so what's your point?

Ellen White said it was the Doctrine everything else hinged on...
...She said it was a Doctrine explicitly.

 

[Stryder06]

Ellen White said it was the Doctrine everything else hinged on...
...She said it was a Doctrine explicitly.

I'm certain you can provide me with the source so I can read it for myself. Afterwhich I'll explain it to you, and you'll tell me I'm wrong.

I so do love the dance we do.

 

[Pythons]

I'm certain you can provide me with the source so I can read it for myself. Afterwhich I'll explain it to you, and you'll tell me I'm wrong.

I so do love the dance we do.

Yes, there is an avalanche of sources that all say that "The Personality of God" means God the Father has a body with organs and parts...
...And that this doctrine means 'everything' to Seventh-day Adventists.
...Do you really want me to post all of this Stryder?

 

[OntheDL]

I had understood that Ford was essentially ejected from the SDA denomination...
...Due to being unable to agree with certain prophetic utterances of Ellen White.

Kellogg also was removed from the Church shortly after openly saying he had accepted the Trinity Doctrine...
...I don't understand how those two infuenced SDAism given they were both removed?

I understand Le Roy Froom was a key player in "Questions on Doctrines" being published...
...Of which I have a copy however I dont remember anything about Anthropomorphism being listed as belief.
...I guess I will have to check that out once I can get back home.

To be honest I don't think any Church today is what God would like it to be....
...I know for a fact the Catholic Church has a ton of rats in it.

Ford taught his private view on 1844 and the sanctuary for almost 2 decades at PUC to thousands of pastorial students. He might have been removed from teaching. But he has/had a large following. The Fordites were determined to take over the denomination from within.

Kellogg paved ways for the spiritual in-roads into the Adventist church and corrupted many. Today the Ignatian spiritual exercises are firmly planted in our schools, seminaries...in the form of NLP, spiritual formation, contemplative prayers... in the past 2 decades our new pastors have been trained in these spiritual exercises.

The book 'Questions of Doctrines' altered our beliefs on atonement, the nature of Christ... to be more accepted by the mainstream Christianity.

In reality, it is not about the influences the mortal men have on our denomination today. It's about the spirit, the driving force behind these men that over 100 years (in Kellogg's case) thats works diligently and in a plotted course to bring about changes.

 

[Stryder06]

Yes, there is an avalanche of sources that all say that "The Personality of God" means God the Father has a body with organs and parts...
...And that this doctrine means 'everything' to Seventh-day Adventists.
...Do you really want me to post all of this Stryder?

Post or give links. If it's out there then it's out there. You can give as much or as little as you'd like.

 

[Lysimachus]

Well for one it's a pagan concept as Zeus and all the pagan god's / Titans all were understood...
...To have bodies with organs, members and parts.

The concept of the God of Abraham was a radical departure from all the previous so called god's...
...The ancient Hebrew understanding that carried through to Christ was that.
...Anthropomorphisms were used in human terms so humans could understand them.

Such as when Scripture says God has arms it doesn't mean God has arms...
...But that God could do anything we could do with our arms only in an infinite sense.
...So to with eyes, ears, nose, etc.

To add to that the SDA theological handbook repudiates an anthropomorphite understanding of God...
...As Ellen White clearly had such an understanding I was only wondering what gives here.
...And how SDA theology is passed down ( as in what is actually taught and required to be held as an article of faith ).

Maybe Paganism is counterfeiting God?

 

[Stryder06]

Maybe Paganism is counterfeiting God?

Something like that would just be to simple