How long will there be division?

[BjBarnett]

Hello everyone

Ive thought about this before and I wanted to get the opinions of my fellow Catholic brethern .

I think Protestants will slow start coming back to the church. Although probably not in my life time. I think that they will eventually make themselves so scattered amongst there beliefs that they will realize how far away from the original teachings of the church that they are. I believe they will continue to make more denomination until someone realizes that not everyone can be right and there is a counter reformation. I think eventually every protestant will have there own personal denomination

but maybe im wrong. maybe they will be around until the Lord comes back. dunno. what do you guys think?

 

[Miss Shelby]

sorry, accidental post.

 

[geocajun]

historically speaking, all heresies have ended eventually. I think Arianism took 600 years.

 

[stray bullet]

Hello everyone

Ive thought about this before and I wanted to get the opinions of my fellow Catholic brethern .

I think Protestants will slow start coming back to the church. Although probably not in my life time. I think that they will eventually make themselves so scattered amongst there beliefs that they will realize how far away from the original teachings of the church that they are. I believe they will continue to make more denomination until someone realizes that not everyone can be right and there is a counter reformation. I think eventually every protestant will have there own personal denomination

but maybe im wrong. maybe they will be around until the Lord comes back. dunno. what do you guys think?

I just want to start off by saying I hope we can discuss this while being respectful to our protestant brothers and sisters and not offend them in any way

I think it'll get to a point where many people realize that leaving the Church to "reform" it isn't working out. Many of the Anglicans are already seeing how far out they have gone. You have some which are very traditional, very Catholic-like and some which are content with male priests marrying other male priests. I think some are realizing the danger in being away from the static Church. Thus, why some Anglicans and other churchs are discussing a Rite in communion with the Church.

There will be protests until the end of the world. However, I think there will be a high point in the 'Reformation' that people realize they are in more need of being reformed than the Church they left. Communion will be gone, baptism will be gone and the bible treated as nothing more than a book of good ideas. -all of these things Christians are already believing.

Anyways, I hope this doesn't offend anyone. This is what I sincerely feel and why I am glad to be back. I am still *technically* a member of a protestant church.

 

[BjBarnett]

historically speaking, all heresies have ended eventually. I think Arianism took 600 years.

yeah, Lutherans are pretty close to a 500th birthday i think. so maybe they will come back to the church in about 100 years

 

[BjBarnett]

I just want to start off by saying I hope we can discuss this while being respectful to our protestant brothers and sisters and not offend them in any way

i agree totally. I dont want to offend anyone. but as geocajun said historically these kinds of things dont last. so hopefully we will be able to discuss are opinions on it in an adult manor .

 

[geocajun]

I am still *technically* a member of a protestant church.

no, that is incorrect. You are Catholic.

 

[Maggie893]

However, I think there will be a high point in the 'Reformation' that people realize they are in more need of being reformed than the Church they left.

Great line! That is exactly what happened to me on a personal level when assessing my protestant church and those around me. When it becomes a more corporate analysis in many denominations, I think they will see that the fruits of their labors toward God will be most useful within the Church than without.

 

[Benedicta00]

Scott,

How long will there be Protestants?

Until Christ comes again.

 

[Benedicta00]

historically speaking, all heresies have ended eventually. I think Arianism took 600 years.

But it’s still with us? The JW and the Mormons.

 

[geocajun]

But it’s still with us? The JW and the Mormons.

well, they don't follow Arius. But rather they are a modified, new fangled version of an old heresy.

 

[stray bullet]

no, that is incorrect. You are Catholic.

Oh, I am Catholic. When I was baptized as a child in a protestant church I became Catholic. When I submitted to the authority of the Church, I because a Catholic in communion with the Church. When I was reconciled, I became a Catholic with a renewed relationship with God.
Now, I await Confirmation (which may be soon), when I will become a Catholic and a member of the Church

 

[Adammi]

Well, a kingdom divided against itself cannot stand, and as time goes by they become more and more divided against themselves.

 

[Benedicta00]

stray,
Confirmation isn't the final entrance into the Church. It is not even required. You are Catholic because of you desire to be. My kids are not confirmed yet, they are Catholic.

 

[Rising_Suns]

Judging from the pattern of history, the spiritual unity of God's chosen people has always been cyclical. Even in the Old Testament, there exists this pattern of falling away, God stepping in, falling away, God stepping in, etc. This patterned seemed to have continued after Christ; the early Church marked a return to the faith; there was alot of Christian persecution and that forced Christians to unite and the Holy Spirit to shine among them.

Then as we approached the reformation, God's chosen people were falling away again. God even appeared to St. francis of Assisi (who lived just prior to the reformation) and told him; "Rebuild my Church, which as you see is falling into ruin".

I believe the reformation marked the lowest negative point in this cycle, splitting Christianity into all these different sects. Now, it would seem, we are on the rebound once again, slowly coming back together to repeat the cycle once more.

This also rings true with Pope JPII's comments regrading the great army that God is currently in the process of building. We are slowly approaching the top end of this cycle, yet still very far away. I would also suspect, for this to happen, there would be another era of persecution just prior to the pinnacle of Christian unity.

 

[stray bullet]

stray,
Confirmation isn't the final entrance into the Church. It is not even required. You are Catholic because of you desire to be. My kids are not confirmed yet, they are Catholic.

Yeah, I am Catholic, but I am not a full member of the Church yet, which is why I can not receive communion. Upon my confirmation, I will be an actual member of the Catholic church and my parish.

 

[Benedicta00]

Yeah, I am Catholic, but I am not a full member of the Church yet, which is why I can not receive communion. Upon my confirmation, I will be an actual member of the Catholic church and my parish.

But God forbid if you were to get hit by a bus his afternoon- you're Catholic.

 

[Adammi]

Yeah, I am Catholic, but I am not a full member of the Church yet, which is why I can not receive communion. Upon my confirmation, I will be an actual member of the Catholic church and my parish.

The way I see it you are Catholic because of paragraph 1249 of the CCC, you are not however a member of a parish.

 

[geocajun]

Yeah, I am Catholic, but I am not a full member of the Church yet, which is why I can not receive communion. Upon my confirmation, I will be an actual member of the Catholic church and my parish.

Stray you are an 'actual member of the Church now' just not in full communion.
You are not a protestant anymore than my 3 year old who cannot receive communion yet, nor is confirmed is.

 

[stray bullet]

Stray you are an 'actual member of the Church now' just not in full communion.
You are not a protestant anymore than my 3 year old who cannot receive communion yet, nor is confirmed is.

Ok, it was a silly thing to say... i just meant there is a piece of paper out there in a protestant church out there with my name on it and no said piece of paper within the Church... yet.
It doesn't speak of who I am, my spirituality or how God sees me.