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<blockquote data-quote="Uber Genius" data-source="post: 73346122" data-attributes="member: 389967"><p>We are not trapped in some postmodern solipsism where we can't trust the existence of anything accept our own experience.</p><p></p><p>No one justifies their belief in God by saying I believe God created the universe, the universe exists therefore God exists. This is a strawman of your own creation and is obviously circular.</p><p></p><p><em>So the existence of the universe kicks off a reasoning process </em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Anything that begins to exist has a cause (1)</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>1.Something cannot come from nothing</em>. To claim that something can come into being out of nothing is worse than magic. When a magician pulls a rabbit out of a hat, at least you've got the magician, not to mention the hat! But if you deny premise (1) you've got to think that the whole universe just appeared at some point in the past for no reason whatsoever. But nobody sincerely believes that things, say, a horse or an Eskimo village, can just pop into being without a cause.</p><p></p><p>2. <em>If something can come into being from nothing, then it becomes inexplicable why just anything or everything doesn't come into being from nothing</em>. Think about it: why don't bicycles and Beethoven and root beer just pop into being from nothing? Why is it only universes that can pop into being from nothing? What makes nothingness so discriminatory? There can't be anything about nothingness that favors universes, for nothingness doesn't have any properties. Nor can anything constrain nothingness, since there isn't anything to be constrained!</p><p></p><p>3. <em>Common experience and scientific evidence confirm the truth of premise (1)</em>. Premise (1) is constantly verified and never falsified. It is hard to understand how any atheist committed to modern science could deny that premise (1) is more plausibly true than false in light of the evidence. </p><p></p><p>for more see:</p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]6CulBuMCLg0[/MEDIA]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Uber Genius, post: 73346122, member: 389967"] We are not trapped in some postmodern solipsism where we can't trust the existence of anything accept our own experience. No one justifies their belief in God by saying I believe God created the universe, the universe exists therefore God exists. This is a strawman of your own creation and is obviously circular. [I]So the existence of the universe kicks off a reasoning process Anything that begins to exist has a cause (1) 1.Something cannot come from nothing[/I]. To claim that something can come into being out of nothing is worse than magic. When a magician pulls a rabbit out of a hat, at least you've got the magician, not to mention the hat! But if you deny premise (1) you've got to think that the whole universe just appeared at some point in the past for no reason whatsoever. But nobody sincerely believes that things, say, a horse or an Eskimo village, can just pop into being without a cause. 2. [I]If something can come into being from nothing, then it becomes inexplicable why just anything or everything doesn't come into being from nothing[/I]. Think about it: why don't bicycles and Beethoven and root beer just pop into being from nothing? Why is it only universes that can pop into being from nothing? What makes nothingness so discriminatory? There can't be anything about nothingness that favors universes, for nothingness doesn't have any properties. Nor can anything constrain nothingness, since there isn't anything to be constrained! 3. [I]Common experience and scientific evidence confirm the truth of premise (1)[/I]. Premise (1) is constantly verified and never falsified. It is hard to understand how any atheist committed to modern science could deny that premise (1) is more plausibly true than false in light of the evidence. for more see: [MEDIA=youtube]6CulBuMCLg0[/MEDIA] [/QUOTE]
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