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If Not For Grace

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One way is to look at nature. Look at the way the ocean, air and everything is intertwined. Look at the human body-how intricate. Look at the systems in place like the weather, birth, death...

does it seem random..did all this happen just by chance.. I am here therefore I am a part of it. I see master desgins-therefore I beleive in a Master and His Plan..(that's just the beginning, but think about it for a start)
 
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He says so. For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, said the LORD, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end. Jeremiah 29:11.

Any plan that God makes for his followers will be the best for us... even if tougher than ones we may have chosen ourselves.

Depression tells us lies... it's hard work to NOT believe them. This is an important time to focus ONLY on God's Word, and not lean towards our own understandings because depression, well, it lies to us (and only tells us bad, negative things.)

So many great prophets in the Bible went through depression... and that's the key.... they went THROUGH it... keep on keeping on, it won't last forever.
 
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thank you grace for your reply, i do believe that god exists, what im asking is how do you know if god has a good plan for your life
 
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thank you drjean for explaining this, so the good plan that god has is for all who are his children, then i must not be one of his children
 
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thank you noxot but how do i know god is the plan for my life?

because God is the source of all life and you are His child. lack is an illusion, God never did stop providing everything you ever needed. I do know because I have the Spirit of God and this is the only way i can say with confidence that God loves you and He is the purpose of all reality. and since you are a child of His you also have much purpose. God is with you right now and you know it not. the truth is that if God is not where you are, then you would not be there, because He is the foundation for all of reality. and Father made everything in His Divine Love which transcends all comprehensions.

if you want a closer connection with God read this with prayers to God: http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/sat/sat22.htm
 
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I think that God simply called us all to give our life to Jesus, because on earth all is vanity. Once we will live for Christ, you will be in His plan. Its dure that if we dont give our life to Him, we will not make His will, but still He loves us so much that He take care of us in our life because we believe in Jesus and are called by Him because of faith ..

Remember Jesus didnt have it easy, because it was all for God, but God was with Him never abaondoning his son.

I just have to say keep having faith in Jesus, and if you want one day give Him your everything. As long as everything is in Jesus hands, He'll start living in you.
 
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thank you noxot, it is confusing, why does god allow the hurt, the loneliness, why allow people to be so cruel and hurtful, i dont hurt people or do bad to them so why?
 
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frank, thank you for your message, i dont know if god has called me and yes its true that jesus didnt have it easy but he is god and has the power to overcome, im only human and so weak
 
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You say you believe in God, if so do you not see a system in place? Are you not part of that system? If the system is so intracately woven was it not planned?

Good/Evil is allowed because choice is allowed-what is faith or trust w/o choice?
One can not have faith if Everything is revealed or known..w/o Faith it is impossible to please God. The most important part in ANY relationship is trust.
 
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thank you noxot, it is confusing, why does god allow the hurt, the loneliness, why allow people to be so cruel and hurtful, i dont hurt people or do bad to them so why?
That's the million dollar question. I don't know why God allows bad things, but He obviously does. As we get older we come to accept that there is evil in the world without having the answer as to why. The good thing is that this life is only temporary, and there's a time coming when all evil will be eradicated and everything will be as God had originally intended. I can't wait!
 
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hi grace, thank you for explaining further. yes i do believe god exists and has is plan but what im enquiring about is does have a good plan for me, looking at life shows that the plan for some is not good but bad

i wish good and evil wasnt allowed and that people didnt have the choice to do evil to other people, for me it would be better if we didnt have that choice
 
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thank you dysert, maybe thats why some people want to shorten that wait
 
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how do you know if god has a good plan for your life?

Life down here has to do with faith in God's good.

I know that life down here can be very ugly and bad. In The End it was like that for Jesus as well, but faith in God knows that bad is turned for good, Jesus had such a faith that He knew that the agony of His earthly life would be turned to the ultimate good. So He kept going! Never wavering in the good of God.

So if your life is bad now, indeed if you suffer and all good seems to be gone, then rejoice because God is going to bestow ultimate goodness on you in time to come. You will be rewarded for suffering evil!

Your only hope is God's goodness, grab hold of Him in faith and don't let Him out of your sight.
 
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hi jeshu, thank you for explaining this, however i just cant understand why god needs me to suffer from evil in order to give me a reward
 
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thank you noxot, it is confusing, why does god allow the hurt, the loneliness, why allow people to be so cruel and hurtful, i dont hurt people or do bad to them so why?

I look back on my life and I thank God that i was mistreated from time to time. all my defects are now turning to my advantage. God is love. it does not seem like it at the time, but you will look back and rejoice at what God has delivered you out of. if you are mistreated, do not mistreat others, if people are bitter to you, don't be bitter back to them. if you suffer and you are innocent, then that is all the more proof that you are a child of God, because the world loves its own. God is allowing you to taste what evil is, so that you also will not want to be evil. if you run to God and cling to Him during your trials, soon your sorrow will turn to joy and peace. joy and peace that is impossible for the world to have, because God is joy and peace and He is the comforter. some people get so close to God that even when evil people tortured and kill them, they are full of joy and peace. with God all things are possible.

2Cor 13:4 (YLT)
for even if he was crucified from infirmity, yet he doth live from the power of God; for we also are weak in him, but we shall live with him from the power of God toward you.


the life God has for you is so good that even in the depths of hell you will rejoice, put your trust and faith in God, He is Love and your Father. reject those negative thoughts and only trust in those good things that are from God. seek God and you will find Him, there is no end, you will always be finding God. seek first the kingdom of heaven, escape from this evil world with its cruel ways, do not be consumed by it! you will greatly rejoice to see you trusted in and leaned on God for your strength and comfort. others were not so strong, and they were trapped in evil, so you be strong and be a light, so that they too may see and live and not die. you are a branch and connected to the tree of life when you abide in Christ, the sap that tree gives you will make you produce good fruits. it is the Spirit of God that gives life, goodness, love, hope. just trust God with everything and let go of everything contrary to God.
 
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All God's plans are for good for His followers, and not so good for those who reject Him.

But to say because things are not going well, or you may be plateaued in a spot so then you must not be His is false reasoning. God's ultimate design for believers is good, but the devil and our humaness can often disrupt that plan. The ultimate goal will be reached though, and while sometimes things go off track, God is sovereign and in the end it will be good all the time. What the devil means for bad for us, God can turn it around for good for us.

Don't compare... stay in His Word and pray to do the best you can. Once you have accepted Christ's payment and redemption... we just have to do our daily best and God is pleased. (For how can anyone do more than the best they can do???)
 
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dear noxot thank you for taking the time to reply. i cant thank god i was mistreated, it affects me badly still, its a life sentence
 
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