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Featured How do you feel about women not wearing bras?

Discussion in 'Christian Philosophy & Ethics' started by Sklt1985, Dec 1, 2016.

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  1. Goatee

    Goatee Jesus, please forgive me, a sinner.

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    A woman can wear what she wants. If men are tempted then that is their sin, not the womans! Why should women dress to stop men from ogling them? It is up to the man to control his feelings.
     
  2. Bible Highlighter

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    It's the whole point in why we wear clothes in the first place. Hey, look. If you don't get it, there is no use explaining it to you. It's a Godly thing to dress modestly so as not to tempt others. Christians are to do things so as not to tempt others. The Scriptures say this. Your lack of care or awareness does not change that fact.

    Oh, and my wife understands this concept perfectly, too.


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  3. Goatee

    Goatee Jesus, please forgive me, a sinner.

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    Look, Adam and Eve walked around naked! We were made naked!

    If a man, or woman cannot control themselves then they are to blame. Not the person who is looking attractive!

    Bras, as we know it today, are a 'modern' invention. One has to train the mind! It is up to the person who is 'looking' not to 'look'.

    Much like temptations (of which i fail badly at) one should train the mind to pass at!
     
  4. Bible Highlighter

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    In other words, it would sort of like putting out a wallet with a couple of hundred dollar bills sticking out onto the floor with a string. Why would you want to tempt people with taking your money? What happens if somebody struggled with stealing and they are trying to be better?


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  5. Bible Highlighter

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    In other words, it would sort of like putting out a wallet with a couple of hundred dollar bills sticking out onto the floor with a string. Why would you want to tempt people with taking somebody else's money? What happens if somebody struggled with stealing and they are trying to be better? Would you not be just as guilty before God in tempting others?


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  6. Ffraid

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    Someone's always struggling with something. Considering how many people are struggling to be sober, you don't see nearly enough people exhorting others not to drink in public, do you?
     
  7. Goatee

    Goatee Jesus, please forgive me, a sinner.

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    Then that is 'their' issue
     
  8. Bible Highlighter

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    And you think we are back in the Garden where it is okay for us to walk around naked still?

    There is a line drawn on how they are to present themselves. They can look attractive, but they cannot dress like a hooker trying to draw in men.

    Again, the bra is a non-issue. The issue is not the bra. Bra or no bra. The issue is if their breasts are covered or not.

    Is it possible that you may be defending your own struggle?


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  9. Bible Highlighter

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    But the Bible says we are not to do something around our brother or sister so as to make them to stumble.


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  10. Goatee

    Goatee Jesus, please forgive me, a sinner.

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    No as i dont care how a woman or a man dresses. We may be tempted to look but doesn't mean we have to get all excited etc etc! We have to train our minds to turn away. If 'you' cant then i understand why you say the things you do.
     
  11. Goatee

    Goatee Jesus, please forgive me, a sinner.

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    Bible says to cut off your arm if you stumble! Would you?
     
  12. Ffraid

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    Then I guess you're responsible for quite a few brothers and sisters stumbling over envy and anger at all the nice things that you have and display daily, and which they lack.
     
  13. Bible Highlighter

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    You should care.

    The Bible says,

    "In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array" (1 Timothy 2:9).

    Yes, it is true that somebody of God will not be tempted to look at others if they walk with the LORD and His good ways.

    Please stop it with the baseless accusations.


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  14. Bible Highlighter

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    So now you are regulating the Bible to being illogical to make your point?


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  15. Bible Highlighter

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    Wow. Really? Doing good does not give a person a right to do evil. If somebody does something wrong like tempting others in a wrong and evil way, they will be just as guilty as the one's partaking in the temptation.

    The context of not doing things to make your brother to stumble is not in you doing holy and righteous things. It's silly to suggest otherwise.


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  16. pearcekj

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    I don't drink at all for that reason and we ought to exhort others to be mindful when drinking in public for that same reason. We are called to be set aside, not to do what the fallen majority are doing. Our sisters should not have their nipples poking out under a thin layer of cloth for all the men to lust upon, then claim innocence. Bathsheba should not have been on the rooftop. Lot should not have offered his daughters to the rapers because it seemed to be comfortable or fashionable in the moment. We are responsible as men to deny our flesh and boldly speak our Father's truth. Modesty changes, God doesn't change. He says to dress modestly, inwardly and outwardly, don't cause a brother to stumble, love God and love your neighbor. Fig leaves weren't enough for Adam and Eve, so God sacrificed the first animal and clothed them in skins. It was important enough to Him that He killed for it. As His Sons and Daughters it should matter to us.
     
  17. Goatee

    Goatee Jesus, please forgive me, a sinner.

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    The 'tempted' are the ones that need control.
     
  18. Bible Highlighter

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    And you just regulated the verse I quoted as useless background noise.

    Good day to you.
    And may God's love shine upon you.


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  19. Goatee

    Goatee Jesus, please forgive me, a sinner.

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    Well, if you are tempted by a woman with no bra showing her 'curves' then it is only 'u' to blame! Look away and move on.
     
  20. Ffraid

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    I see absolutely no difference between 'showing an unspecified amount of skin is bad because it incites lust' and 'driving a new BMW is bad because it incites covetousness'. If in the latter case only the one who covets is to blame, then in the former case only the one who lusts is to blame.
     
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