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How do we sort out different intepretations, and seeming contradictions?

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Point of clarification: Were you baptized in Jesus' name, or in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit?
"Name" is singular, Jesus. That's why they baptized in Jesus' Name in Acts. No other way!

Acts 2:38
38 Then Peter said to them, "Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
 
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To me these just seem like the same thing, expressed from different perspectives. Paul was deeply versed in the scriptures and personally devoted to the application of the law and traditions for most of his early life. He clearly delighted in the freedom he found in Christ (e.g. Romans 7 and many other passages), but he also clearly expected this to result in something, e.g. Romans 6:17 'you became obedient from the heart to that doctrine that was given to you', and Romans 12:2. There are many more examples of how Paul saw action as an outcome of faith, because that is how he was - once he 'got' Jesus he immediately began to act in accordance with his newly reordered faith. It's clear also that he saw those who claimed to be Christians but didn't live accordingly as outside of the church - 1 Cor 5:11 (cf James 4:4). James, on the other hand, in his letter, is focused more on the outcomes of faith than the reasons for it. Faith without deeds is dead, the same message Paul gives but delivered differently, by a different person, with a different personality, life experience, writing to a different audience and for different reasons etc.
 
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I think my question is much more important than all of yours.

"Do you reject Jesus' Blood atonement for our sins?"

1 John 1:7
7 But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin.

It's all about the Blood, not water baptism.
 
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It's about Baptism too, both repentance and Baptism are necessary. Just because St. Paul did not baptize does not mean baptism is unnecessary. Unfortunately many evangelicals really do not follow Scripture properly and do their own thing and so minimize one important aspect of overall Salvation
 
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It has been clearly shown that someone can be saved and not baptized! I was saved for months before I was baptized.

Huh. A clear and shinning example of 2 Timothy 4:3-4.

So, your saying you "put on Christ" before baptism which is contrary to Galatians 3:26-27.

Your saying that Mark 16:16 is false.

Your saying that you can get the Holy Spirit without baptism Acts 2:38

Your saying that you can receive remission of sins without baptism Acts 2:38

Your saying Paul is full of lies when he spoke of Romans 6:1-5

Your saying Peter is full of lies when he spoke of 1 Peter 3:20-21

Your saying you can go against the authority given to Christ when he stated Matthew 28:19-20

Your saying Paul washed away his sins BEFORE being baptized when Ananias came to him Acts 22:16 (notice being baptized is before washing away sins)

Your saying that you can enter the kingdom without being baptized John 3:3 and 5

Right, you keep believing that in the face of ALL scripture telling you otherwise. I have answered your questions, of which you keep repeating and repeating for some reason or another (probably because you have no excuse for the questions and scripture I gave you).
If you wish to keep believing that, your choice. Though, you have been brought the message and refused it. So, when the time comes, there will be no excuses left.

I hope that wont be so, however, I can't keep pleading the case to you when theres others out there needing tending to. You clearly reject plain and simple scripture.
 
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Are you really implying that someone who will die in a few minutes can't be saved?
 
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Hopefully, prayerfully, Yahuweh (God Sovereign Creator Father of Yahushua(Jesus) )
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granted some understanding since the thread started.

Men always contribute confusion to what God made simple.

Thus, "turn to God",

as "if anyone lacks wisdom, let them ask of God Who gives freely and abundantly to all men and without reproach" .....

When God answers, the truth is known.
 
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Are you really implying that someone who will die in a few minutes can't be saved?

I'm not implying anything. I am relaying the message from scripture. The scripture given you is not refutable and crystal clear. We have to speak as "the oracles of God".

So, what does scripture say? Its not me implying anything. I read it, I pass it along. Anyone who has any reading comprehension, and has studied scripture, can figure out by scripture, what needs to be done.
 
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Amen! Water baptism is not required for salvation.
 
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Amen! Water baptism is not required for salvation.

And how did you come to the conclusion that I said that? See here is the problem, people cannot read the context and know the meaning of what they read. My last post went over your head.

I never agreed to what you said here. You asked:

"Are you really implying that someone who will die in a few minutes can't be saved?"

I basically said:
"I am not implying anything, scripture is. Not my words, but God's. I'm merely passing on what is in the bible."

So how in the world did you come to this conclusion?
 
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Ok, so you're saying, if someone is dying and can't be baptized he can't be saved?
 
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So scripture is wrong?
No, Scripture is right.

Romans 10:9-10
If you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.
10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
 
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