how do atheists explain this?

[Liberal Angel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOxVjbGvUpI&feature=youtube_gdata_player

How all the people fell down when the priest shouted? Do u think it was a set up?

 

[quatona]

How do theists explain it?

 

[freezerman2000]

How do theists explain it?

Good question!

 

[essentialsaltes]

It may not be a set-up (i.e. an intentional fraud) but this pastor has built up these expectations in his flock.

As a really good analogy, why can this martial arts master only make his own students fall unconscious with his no-touch move? Why does it not work on the news reporter?

Martial Arts Death Touch - YouTube

 

[Liberal Angel]

It may not be a set-up (i.e. an intentional fraud) but this pastor has built up these expectations in his flock.

As a really good analogy, why can this martial arts master only make his own students fall unconscious with his no-touch move? Why does it not work on the news reporter?

Martial Arts Death Touch - YouTube

wow that's really nice, thanks!

I been actually thinking about becoming an Atheist because I feel like Christianity and God really aren't working out for me. I have witnessed a few miracles in my life, (the video i linked being one of them) but if they can all be dis proven then I probably will become an Atheist, also I feel like God really doesn't care about us, yet we are taught to continue to worship and praise him regardless.

If i become an atheist can i still believe in heaven? Can I become like a spiritual atheist? or is atheism all 100% fact all knowledge? I have had a rough life and I just want to believe that after I die I'll be in heaven and that things will be good for me.

 

[essentialsaltes]

wow that's really nice, thanks!

Glad you appreciate it!

I been actually thinking about becoming an Atheist because I feel like Christianity and God really aren't working out for me. I have witnessed a few miracles in my life, (the video i linked being one of them) but if they can all be dis proven then I probably will become an Atheist, also I feel like God really doesn't care about us, yet we are taught to continue to worship and praise him regardless.

With respect, you speak about God as though he exists. If you believe any gods exist, you are not an atheist.

Just because Christianity 'isn't working out for you' doesn't all by itself mean it's not true.

If i become an atheist can i still believe in heaven?

The only thing required to be an atheist is to not believe that any gods exist.

While belief in an afterlife would be uncommon for modern-day atheists, it's not impossible.

Can I become like a spiritual atheist?

Many people consider themselves spiritual atheists.

or is atheism all 100% fact all knowledge?

A lot of atheists lean that way (or pretend to be 100% fact) but that's not really possible. Atheists are people. We have likes and dislikes, hopes and dreams. These things aren't 'facts'.

I have had a rough life and I just want to believe that after I die I'll be in heaven and that things will be good for me.

It is a comforting thought.

 

[LayTheologian]

It may not be a set-up (i.e. an intentional fraud) but this pastor has built up these expectations in his flock.

As a really good analogy, why can this martial arts master only make his own students fall unconscious with his no-touch move? Why does it not work on the news reporter?

I love that guy! He's the one who got in a fight with an MMA fighter and got beaten extremely badly, right?

 

[Paradoxum]

I've fallen over before at a worship meeting. For me, I fell because I thought it was what I was meant to do to experience God. Shortly after I realised I had done it to myself. I expect some people don't have such thoughts when they fall though. I think it can easily be a psychological thing, of being made to expect something to happen, or responding to authority (like hypnosis perhaps), worship or a good preach could perhaps bring people to such a state of mind.

I've also gotten that shaking feelings before, and a hot rush, when I've been prayed for, or when I was praying for someone. Again, probably due to expectations, the way prays are said, or the frame of mind you get into when open to prayer. Right now I can replicate the shaking feeling by choice.

 

[Liberal Angel]

I've fallen over before at a worship meeting. For me, I fell because I thought it was what I was meant to do to experience God. Shortly after I realised I had done it to myself. I expect some people don't have such thoughts when they fall though. I think it can easily be a psychological thing, of being made to expect something to happen, or responding to authority (like hypnosis perhaps), worship or a good preach could perhaps bring people to such a state of mind.

I've also gotten that shaking feelings before, and a hot rush, when I've been prayed for, or when I was praying for someone. Again, probably due to expectations, the way prays are said, or the frame of mind you get into when open to prayer. Right now I can replicate the shaking feeling by choice.

Damn... I had same things happen....

Been watching more videos on YouTube how science has no evidence for chi and over the years science has disproven many claims made my religion

So it is all bull crap!!!! We should just die then cuz everything sucks and there's no hope for a better life

 

[Liberal Angel]

I changed my icon to atheist. I feel like a poser though cuz all atheists I see online are super educated and half the words they use I have no idea what they mean. I'm on mental disability for my illness and I feel like ten times a loser now cuz at least as a christian I thought my life had meaning, but now I'm just useless

What are some tips u guys have for being happy as an atheist?

Do u believe in fate?

 

[Liberal Angel]

Hey but what about this video where he does miracle healings and everyone cheers for him, can all these people be wrong? Did the lady not really have cancer?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYRCNSyH29M&feature=youtube_gdata_player

 

[Received]

How do atheists explain it?

Carefully. That's how.

 

[saffron park]

Obviously the preacher in the first video was born with the soul of a dragon. Didn't you listen to the audio?

 

[Jonathan95]

wow that's really nice, thanks!

I been actually thinking about becoming an Atheist because I feel like Christianity and God really aren't working out for me. I have witnessed a few miracles in my life, (the video i linked being one of them) but if they can all be dis proven then I probably will become an Atheist, also I feel like God really doesn't care about us, yet we are taught to continue to worship and praise him regardless.

If i become an atheist can i still believe in heaven? Can I become like a spiritual atheist? or is atheism all 100% fact all knowledge? I have had a rough life and I just want to believe that after I die I'll be in heaven and that things will be good for me.

You know heaven and God exists. You can't have heaven without God. The Bible states that God has put eternity into our hearts:

". . . Also, he has put eternity into man's heart . . ." Ecclesiastes 3:11 (ESV)

 

[Liberal Angel]

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[essentialsaltes]

I love that guy! He's the one who got in a fight with an MMA fighter and got beaten extremely badly, right?

Maybe. The one I remember had an old Asian guy as the 'no touch' master, and he did get beaten badly. Punched in the face over and over again. It's so sad I can't watch it.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Hey but what about this video where he does miracle healings and everyone cheers for him, can all these people be wrong? Did the lady not really have cancer?

How do you know the lady had cancer before?

How do you know the lady no longer had cancer after?

"can all these people be wrong? "

Wrong about what? They are not doctors. They haven't examined the woman. They have no way of knowing whether she does or doesn't have cancer.

 

[Gadarene]

Hey but what about this video where he does miracle healings and everyone cheers for him, can all these people be wrong? Did the lady not really have cancer?

Remission happens for believer and nonbeliever alike, with and without prayer. It is a useless criterion for establishing divine intervention.

 

[Gadarene]

I changed my icon to atheist. I feel like a poser though cuz all atheists I see online are super educated and half the words they use I have no idea what they mean.

Not all of them are super educated (aside from me obviously), and don't let big words fool you - not worth changing your opinion based how an argument is made. Worry about the content of the argument instead.

I'm on mental disability for my illness and I feel like ten times a loser now cuz at least as a christian I thought my life had meaning, but now I'm just useless

Not at all. You don't need a deity handing out meaning to have meaning in your life. Create your own.

What are some tips u guys have for being happy as an atheist?

Find what makes you happy and do it, as long as it doesn't hurt other people (your life tends to be happier the happier the people around you are too).

Do u believe in fate?

Nope, though one can make educated guesses about how certain events will pan out.

 

[Gadarene]

Right, no more silly Benny Hinn vids.

Here's a much better one, and hopefully more helpful.

Stephen Fry on Manic Depression - YouTube