how did DNA achieve 'memory'?

[Landon Caeli]

it seems DNA can record and remember.

Let's discuss how this works exactly from the beginning.

 

[Larniavc]

it seems DNA can record and remember.

Let's discuss how this works exactly from the beginning.

It only remembers in the same way mud remembers a foot print.

 

[-57]

It only remembers in the same way mud remembers a foot print.

Can the mud duplicate the foot print? The answer is no....your analogy failed.

 

[ZNP]

it seems DNA can record and remember.

Let's discuss how this works exactly from the beginning.

In forensics we say that "every contact leaves a trace". That trace is a memory.

 

[ChetSinger]

it seems DNA can record and remember.

Let's discuss how this works exactly from the beginning.

As I understand cells, the DNA is the memory and is queried whenever anything needs to be built. Are you speaking of this, or something else?

 

[Larniavc]

Can the mud duplicate the foot print? The answer is no....your analogy failed.

Let it harden. Add some rain. Let it freeze. A 3D print of the foot print.

Analogy 1. Knee-jerk reaction 0.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

Meh. gazumped by 2 minutes by Larnievc...

 

[-57]

Let it harden. Add some rain. Let it freeze. A 3D print of the foot print.

Analogy 1. Knee-jerk reaction 0.

All you did was fill up the print with water and freeze it....then called the water the duplication...not the footprint. In other words the footprint didn't copy itself.

perhaps you have a way of removing the ice from the footprint and impressing it into nearby mud and creating a new print....yes?

 

[Landon Caeli]

As I understand cells, the DNA is the memory and is queried whenever anything needs to be built. Are you speaking of this, or something else?

Yes, the DNA does as it's programmed to do. I think.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Meh. gazumped by 2 minutes by Larnievc...

I'm 43... Is my DNA 30,000 years old and just slightly altered from my parents' or is it 43 years old?

...Because sometimes I stare in the mirror at my eyes, and think that these eyes are thousands of years old.

 

[Larniavc]

All you did was fill up the print with water and freeze it....then called the water the duplication...not the footprint. In other words the footprint didn't copy itself.

perhaps you have a way of removing the ice from the footprint and impressing it into nearby mud and creating a new print....yes?

The shape of the foot print is a near perfect copy of the shape of the the foot. And the ice is a near perfect copy of the foot print.

That’s two levels of duplication of the shape of the foot and you ask for third?

How disingenuous of you. Would you also like it tied in a bow? I showed how you are wrong.

Take the L.

 

[Larniavc]

I'm 43... Is my DNA 30,000 years old and just slightly altered from my parents' or is it 43 years old?

...Because sometimes I stare in the mirror at my eyes, and think that these eyes are thousands of years old.

It’s 43 years old. But it’s based on two other patterns that the age of your parents when you were conceived.

 

[ChetSinger]

Yes, the DNA does as it's programmed to do. I think.

Me too. I think that cellular mechanics, including DNA, are among the evidences for God. Not Christ per se, but God as creator.

 

[-57]

The shape of the foot print is a near perfect copy of the shape of the the foot. And the ice is a near perfect copy of the foot print.

That’s two levels of duplication of the shape of the foot and you ask for third?

How disingenuous of you. Would you also like it tied in a bow? I showed how you are wrong.

Take the L.

You didn't duplicate the footprint in the mud....so you have two footprints to fill with water and freeze.

 

[-57]

Yes, the DNA does as it's programmed to do. I think.

...and all programs require a programmer.

 

[Larniavc]

so you have two footprints to fill with water and freeze.

Which is as easy as waiting for winter.

 

[-57]

Which is as easy as waiting for winter.

You're not doing real well with your analogy...would you like to try another?

DNA can reproduce..copy itself and make another...Your muddy footprint can't.

 

[driewerf]

I'm 43... Is my DNA 30,000 years old and just slightly altered from my parents' or is it 43 years old?

...Because sometimes I stare in the mirror at my eyes, and think that these eyes are thousands of years old.

Depending on the cells you take it from, it might be a week old, a month old, or a year old.
look Ship of Theseus - Wikipedia] Ship of Theseus [/url] and ask yourself ; Who am I?

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

I'm 43... Is my DNA 30,000 years old and just slightly altered from my parents' or is it 43 years old?

...Because sometimes I stare in the mirror at my eyes, and think that these eyes are thousands of years old.

There are many different answers. Cells die and are replaced by new cells all the time (~50-70 billion a day). Each replacement has new DNA molecules. But some cells last a lifetime, so their DNA is decades old - except that all DNA is under continual repair, so some bits are newer than other bits.

With respect to the functional arrangement, some parts are truly ancient - the arrangement of the gene for the enzyme glutamine synthetase, essential for protein synthesis, is thought to be over 2 billion years old.

 

[Tinker Grey]

There are many different answers. Cells die and are replaced by new cells all the time (~50-70 billion a day). Each replacement has new DNA molecules. But some cells last a lifetime, so their DNA is decades old - except that all DNA is under continual repair, so some bits are newer than other bits.

With respect to the functional arrangement, some parts are truly ancient - the arrangement of the gene for the enzyme glutamine synthetase, essential for protein synthesis, is thought to be over 2 billion years old.

To go further, the atoms in our body are likely older than our sun.