How Could I Ever Be Forgiven?

[Pwnerer]

http://www.beliefnet.com/story/222/story_22229_1.html

By Shannon Ethridge

The absolute worst day of my life was August 29, 1984. Ironically, one of the best days of my life was the very next day, for on that day I was given the greatest gift one could ever receive.

It was the first week of my junior year in high school, and I’d worked hard to memorize my locker combination, my class schedule, and my new pep squad routines. On Wednesday morning of that week, I even remembered to put my seatbelt on before driving to school -- something I wasn’t in the habit of doing every time I got behind the wheel of my little brown Plymouth Champ. Driving down the farm-to-market highway, I remembered that I still needed to put lipstick on. One moment, I was adjusting my rearview mirror for a quick application. The next moment, I was slamming on the breaks after feeling my car jolt suddenly. Running back to see what I had hit, I was shocked to discover a curly-headed woman laying facedown in the grass, with a mangled bicycle next to her.

I ran to a neighboring house to call for an ambulance, which took forty-five minutes to arrive. All the while I was hoping and praying that the woman would survive, but my hopes were shattered when the ambulance driver coldly announced that we’d have to call a funeral home ambulance instead. I left the scene of the accident wondering how I would ever face this woman’s family. I considered suicide to be the lesser of the two evils.
. . .

This is an amazing story of forgiveness and love, which are two vital characteristics for being a moral person.

 

[Pwnerer]

Just so you know, this story pwns. But it's not about a hot wire modern issue that bleeds into public policy and politics so if you want to argue with me it will have to be about how much I pwn and how you want to pwn like that. It can't be about this article.

 

[selfinflikted]

Just so you know, this story pwns. But it's not about a hot wire modern issue that bleeds into public policy and politics so if you want to argue with me it will have to be about how much I pwn and how you want to pwn like that. It can't be about this article.

For starters, stop telling yourself that you "pwn". That's just not the case.

Secondly, I know you want the moral of the story to be something like "Tragic events show us god's glory..." or something of that nature. The real moral of the story is, do not put lipstick on while driving.

Thirdly, this story is obviously a fake. It's written to sway those on the cusp into believing... and it's my not-so-humble opinion that it does a crappy job of that.

 

[Pwnerer]

For starters, stop telling yourself that you "pwn". That's just not the case.

Secondly, I know you want the moral of the story to be something like "Tragic events show us god's glory..." or something of that nature. The real moral of the story is, do not put lipstick on while driving.

Thirdly, this story is obviously a fake. It's written to sway those on the cusp into believing... and it's my not-so-humble opinion that it does a crappy job of that.

How is it obviously fake? Does the fact that it pwns so much stun you into disbelief?

And actually, I thought the 'moral of the story' is that "look at that pwning forgiveness"

At the least, can't you say that it's inspiring?

 

[selfinflikted]

How is it obviously fake?

I've seen countless "stories" just like this in any pamphlet, handout, inspirational motivational literature that was handed out to me while I was in church. I'm willing to bet none of them are true.

Does the fact that it pwns so much stun you into disbelief?

Ok, stop. You're just being silly now.

And actually, I thought the 'moral of the story' is that "look at that amazing forgiveness"

I think you'd be hard-pressed to find a real life example of someone who acts like the man did in the story, considering his wife's untimely demise and all... unless he's a total fruitcake. I'd be [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]ed as hell.

At the least, can't you say that it's inspiring?

No.

 

[Pwnerer]

I've seen countless "stories" just like this in any pamphlet, handout, inspirational motivational literature that was handed out to me while I was in church. I'm willing to bet none of them are true.

I crashed into a guy's lilac bush once and he wasn't angry at all. If his old lady is ready to kick the bucket it might be possible. Especially if he's an old man like Mr. Miyagi or Obi-Wan.

Ok, stop. You're just being silly now.

OK fine don't smile your face might crack. Be angry, because:

I think you'd be hard-pressed to find a real life example of someone who acts like the man did in the story, considering his wife's untimely demise and all... unless he's a total fruitcake. I'd be [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]ed as hell.

I would be too but I'm not a wise old sage with fumanchu.

No.

"No" means "well" in Finnish, so I can only assume that you're saying "Well . . . " meaning that you have reconsidered but don't want to admit it.

 

[selfinflikted]

I crashed into a guy's lilac bush once and he wasn't angry at all. If his old lady is ready to kick the bucket it might be possible. Especially if he's an old man like Mr. Miyagi or Obi-Wan.


OK fine don't smile your face might crack. Be angry, because:

I would be too but I'm not a wise old sage with fumanchu.

"No" means "well" in Finnish, so I can only assume that you're saying "Well . . . " meaning that you have reconsidered but don't want to admit it.

Since you blatantly ignore what I say, tell me things I meant to say when I didn't, and put words in my mouth - this conversation is over.

 

[Pwnerer]

OK well.

I myself wonder what Gary must have gone through. What he was thinking and what his immediate reaction was even if he didn't voice it . I think that most likely he felt pain, but possibly wondered what his wife would want and was then able to avoid any resentment or bitterness. Also I think that considering God's will, which he appears to have done, helps put our grief in a better light so it does not get control of us.

 

[Steezie]

How is it obviously fake?

1. She wasn't arrested. You kill someone with a car, ya gonna get arrested.

2. An EMT would not say "We need to take her to a funeral home". She would be taken to a city morgue as this would be a criminal case.

3. An EMT cannot pronounce someone dead (Im not 100% sure about this, I think you need a coroner there to officially pronounce someone dead)

4. She NEVER mentions being tried in a court or even that the police were involved. There is no possible way that she could have avoided legal problems from this.

I think this story is fake, or atleast embellished for dramatic effect.

 

[Pwnerer]

1. She wasn't arrested. You kill someone with a car, ya gonna get arrested.

In 1984? In that place?

2. An EMT would not say "We need to take her to a funeral home". She would be taken to a city morgue as this would be a criminal case.

It doesn't say that he literally said that. It's called 'writing'.

3. An EMT cannot pronounce someone dead (Im not 100% sure about this, I think you need a coroner there to officially pronounce someone dead)

In that place in 1984?

4. She NEVER mentions being tried in a court or even that the police were involved. There is no possible way that she could have avoided legal problems from this.

Prove please. Show us the laws in that state in 1984 that necessitate this for a minor. And maybe she was. She doesn't mention ever going to the bathroom, either. Does that make the story fake?

 

[Steezie]

In 1984? In that place?

The law was still present in 1984. She contacted EMS, part of EMS response is POLICE. Thats been SOP for MANY years, way before 1984. They would have arrested her.

It doesn't say that he literally said that. It's called 'writing'.

You dont get creative in a testimonial. You say what happened. You dont pretty it up for your reader.

In that place in 1984?

SOP (As far as I know) has been that only a coroner may actually pronounce someone dead. EMTs can call someone DOA but they cant actually classify someone as dead. Thats been in place for MANY years.

Prove please. Show us the laws in that state in 1984 that necessitate this for a minor.

Was 1984 this period of anarchy? Vehicular manslaughter has been a crime since 1907.

And maybe she was. She doesn't mention ever going to the bathroom, either. Does that make the story fake?

And she just FORGETS to add a conviction for vehicular manslaughter? I seriously doubt that

 

[TuxThePenguin]

How is it obviously fake? Does the fact that it pwns so much stun you into disbelief?

And actually, I thought the 'moral of the story' is that "look at that pwning forgiveness"

At the least, can't you say that it's inspiring?

http://snopes.com/glurge/glurge.asp

My personal favorite is

http://snopes.com/glurge/highdive.asp

 

[Ramona]

1. She wasn't arrested. You kill someone with a car, ya gonna get arrested.

2. An EMT would not say "We need to take her to a funeral home". She would be taken to a city morgue as this would be a criminal case.

3. An EMT cannot pronounce someone dead (Im not 100% sure about this, I think you need a coroner there to officially pronounce someone dead)

4. She NEVER mentions being tried in a court or even that the police were involved. There is no possible way that she could have avoided legal problems from this.

I think this story is fake, or atleast embellished for dramatic effect.

PWNED!

(Sorry, I couldn't resist, either. )

 

[selfinflikted]

PWNED!

(Sorry, I couldn't resist, either. )

<3

 

[Bombila]

Pwnerer, believe it or not, 1984 was not during the Dark Ages. The laws around highway fatalities were pretty much the same as they are now. She hit the woman in the afternoon, after school. It took "forty-five minutes for the ambulance to arrive" (I live out in the boonies, and no ambulance ever took that long - where is this, the Rocky Mountains?). By now it's gotta be at least 4:30 pm. No question, she'd be taken into custody by the police, and since, considering the ambulance time, she's in the middle of nowhere, it'll be early evening before she even gets to the police station. There isn't likely time for her to get any phone calls.

Also, consider: the man's wife has just been killed. Who do you know who doesn't spend a little time at least in shock at the sudden death of a loved partner? The husband is not going to be thinking about the kid who ran her down at that point. I could buy him being forgiving later on, as I've seen people forgive in similar circumstances, usually related to the perpetrator's extreme youth.

It's glurge. Learn to recognise it.

Also, I'm sorry, and no doubt expressing my extreme age here, but I think "pwning forgiveness" is really, really a silly phrase.

 

[Pwnerer]

The law was still present in 1984. She contacted EMS, part of EMS response is POLICE. Thats been SOP for MANY years, way before 1984. They would have arrested her.

Can you show me the law that says that minors will be arrested for that?

You dont get creative in a testimonial. You say what happened. You dont pretty it up for your reader.

SOP (As far as I know) has been that only a coroner may actually pronounce someone dead. EMTs can call someone DOA but they cant actually classify someone as dead. Thats been in place for MANY years.

Still waiting for you to show the part where it says that the EMT officially pronounced her legally dead.

Was 1984 this period of anarchy? Vehicular manslaughter has been a crime since 1907. And she just FORGETS to add a conviction for vehicular manslaughter? I seriously doubt that

How could they arrest her for vehicular manslaughter when, as you previously stated that there was no one there to officially pronounce her dead?

On one hand you say the coroner has to pronounce her legally dead, and on the other hand you say she should have been arrested for manslaughter on the spot. If she is not recognized as dead in the eyes of the law then how can someone be arrested for her death?

Yeah.

Shut up.

 

[Steezie]

Can you show me the law that says that minors will be arrested for that?

Vehicular manslaughter is AGAINST THE LAW FOR EVERYBODY. What part of that do you not get?

How could they arrest her for vehicular manslaughter when, as you previously stated that there was no one there to officially pronounce her dead?

You dont get off of killing someone simply because theres no coroner to pronounce TOD. To transport and move a body it must be pronounced medically dead, that much I do know. I am not certain if an EMT can do that or if it has to be a coroner.

 

[Pwnerer]

Vehicular manslaughter is AGAINST THE LAW FOR EVERYBODY. What part of that do you not get?

You dont get off of killing someone simply because theres no coroner to pronounce TOD. To transport and move a body it must be pronounced medically dead, that much I do know. I am not certain if an EMT can do that or if it has to be a coroner.

You obviously have never taken a law course.

Typically minors are not held in the same level of responsibility of adults. Also, with all laws there is taken into consideration both neglect and intent. FOR EVERYBODY SO STOP SCREAMING!

 

[Steezie]

You obviously have never taken a law course.

Typically minors are not held in the same level of responsibility of adults. Also, with all laws there is taken into consideration both neglect and intent. FOR EVERYBODY SO STOP SCREAMING!

Apparently neither have you. Regardless how old you are, if you commit a crime you get arrested and held until your court date (if its something like manslaughter).

You DO NOT just get let off of a vehicular manslaughter charge simply because you are a minor.

 

[Pwnerer]

Apparently neither have you. Regardless how old you are, if you commit a crime you get arrested and held until your court date (if its something like manslaughter).

You DO NOT just get let off of a vehicular manslaughter charge simply because you are a minor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manslaughter#Vehicular_or_intoxication_manslaughter

AHEM

Vehicular or intoxication manslaughter

Vehicular manslaughter is a kind of misdemeanor manslaughter, which holds persons liable for any death that occurs because of criminal negligence or a violation of traffic safety laws. A common use of the vehicular manslaughter laws involves prosecution for a death caused by driving under the influence (determined by excessive blood alcohol content levels set by individual states), although an independent infraction or negligence is usually also required.

Vehicular manslaughter is a kind of misdemeanor. It requires criminal negligence or violation of traffic safety laws. Typically an independent infraction or negligence is usually required.

And just for kicks

Criminal negligence

Negligence consists of conduct by an individual which is not reasonable &#8212; that is, the individual did not act with the care and caution of a reasonable person in similar circumstances. This "reasonable person" is fictitious, of course, but reflects the standard of conduct which society wishes to impose. Violation of this standard may lead to civil liability for the consequences of the negligent behavior.
Negligence rises to the level of criminal negligence where the conduct reaches a higher degree of carelessness or inattention, perhaps to the point of indifference.

Anyway, any n00b can tell you that it's ridiculous to claim that because the author of a story about spirituality chose not to bore us with legal details that the story is not true.

You guys are so judgmental