How are you planning to vote?

xpunkskaterx · Jun 25, 2004

I cant vote, but my gradma is obsessed with the Conservatives

SirKenin · Jun 25, 2004

The Conservatives on both the Provincial (Ontario) and Federal levels have messed this country up in the worst way. Mike Harris was a goof, and so was Brian Mulroney. I can't stand either one of them. I was not even a big Campbell fan. The NDP made the worst mess of Ontario that this Province has ever seen.

At least Martin knows how to balance a budget, unlike our Conservative friends. Therefore, I think that, although I don't agree with the Liberal policies on marriage and homosexuality, that my vote will go to the Liberals. In my riding it's Aileen Carroll.

Svt4Him · Jun 25, 2004

Martin knows how to balance a budget? Ya, cut everything.

SirKenin · Jun 25, 2004

Svt4Him said:
Martin knows how to balance a budget? Ya, cut everything.

I don't think so. He's recorded five balanced budgets in a row, and eliminated a $42 billion deficit that our good friends the Conservatives left us. I don't feel any the worse for wear as a result.

thirsty · Jun 25, 2004

drfeelgood said:
The Conservatives on both the Provincial (Ontario) and Federal levels have messed this country up in the worst way. Mike Harris was a goof, and so was Brian Mulroney. I can't stand either one of them. I was not even a big Campbell fan. The NDP made the worst mess of Ontario that this Province has ever seen.

At least Martin knows how to balance a budget, unlike our Conservative friends. Therefore, I think that, although I don't agree with the Liberal policies on marriage and homosexuality, that my vote will go to the Liberals. In my riding it's Aileen Carroll.

The Liberals know how to balance a budget just like the way they kept the gun registry under control and HRDC boondoggle and the sponsership scandle.

jbarcher · Jun 25, 2004

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honeybee2 · Jun 26, 2004

Has anyone heard lately that the CDN government is talking about making voting mandatory? Apparently that is how the Aussies dealt with low voter turnout.

As far as Harper "looking" american, come on, get real. 'nuf said there.

It seems that us way out here in BC may actually have a voice this election. yea, right! since when does anything west of Toronto count?

By the way, the only way Paul Martin was able to balance the budget was on the backs of the western taxpayers. He collected all our tax money, then spent it on the sponsorship program, the HRDC scandal, and made the provinces responsible for their own healthcare. Not too hard to balance a budget that way.

Did you know that in BC we pay $96 a month for our healthcare for two people? That is if you make more than $24,600, which is way below the poverty line. And from there on, it doesn't matter if you make $1,000,000 a year, it doesn't go up. That seems really fair, huh? But in Ontario, they are just now going to be charged anything for theirs. Wonder why the west is so bitter?
Don't get your panties in a twist about the American style of healthcare. I worked in AZ for two years and they also have a safety net for low income families. (Healthcare, vision and dental are free!!) Plus, any place you work offers benefits, which include healthcare. Even the MacDonalds and well, pretty much anywhere does. They can't get anyone to work if they don't.
When i was down there as a student, my son ended up in the hospital for an emergency appendectomy. Within the first day, he had an ultrasound, a CT scan, an x-ray, and an MRI to diagnose, because it wasnt' clear. Because i had absolutely no coverage, the state of AZ paid for the whole thing, and all i had to do was sign a paper stating that i would remain a resident of AZ for another year. Big deal. So get the facts on US healthcare before you talk, please.
Sorry, just had to inform a few more people.

How am i going to vote?
IF i do, it will be Conservative.

rachelg2004 · Jun 26, 2004

If I could vote I'd be voting conservative.

draper · Jun 26, 2004

I certainly wouldn't complain if they made voting mandatory.

As for Harper being too pro-American...its not an urealistic idea at all. Just look at them...they're soooooooo right wing. The abortions comment (not that I disagree w/ it, but the fact that they feel that way, yet aren't willing to be public about it - remember Harper's gag order thereafter - shows that there's some stuff below the surface)...removing gays from hate legislation (another brilliant idea from one of Harper's candidatess)..look at all the money they want to pump into the military. That says something about what Harper wants to do!

Svt4Him · Jun 26, 2004

I'd rather the money went to the military so our soldiers didn't die from equipment failure, then it went to Quebec for...actually we don't really know what it went there for. Sorry, the Liberal record does speak for itself. I remember "We'll get rid of the GST" and 'We'll get to the bottom of this scandal before we call an election'. Won't even get into the billion or so dollars wasted in the gun registry.

SirKenin · Jun 26, 2004

Svt4Him said:
I remember "We'll get rid of the GST" and 'We'll get to the bottom of this scandal before we call an election'. Won't even get into the billion or so dollars wasted in the gun registry.

Two valid points, but wreckless tax cuts aren't the answer either, as is the way of the Conservatives.

Svt4Him · Jun 27, 2004

I don't see them as wreckless. As a matter of fact, I've only heard what all parties have said, and as an accountant, have found very little to back any claim. But I like how the conservatives are willing to make themselves more accountable, that's a step in the right direction.

wonder111 · Jun 27, 2004

-** Harper would take Canada into deficit in order to pour billions into the military. Bush has already taken the U.S. into trillions of dollars of debt to fund militarism.

-** Harper, like Bush, rejects the Kyoto Protocol. Harper has said he would rescind and not implement this international treaty which Canada has already ratified. Harper's actions could place the entire international regime to avoid catastrophic levels of climate change at risk.

-** Bush was responsible for more executions than any other U.S. Governor of recent times. Harper has suggested the prohibition of capital punishment would be re-opened in Canada.

hence, NDP. I may consider Liberal although I have one day to decide

SirKenin · Jun 27, 2004

Svt4Him said:
I don't see them as wreckless. As a matter of fact, I've only heard what all parties have said, and as an accountant, have found very little to back any claim. But I like how the conservatives are willing to make themselves more accountable, that's a step in the right direction.

Who are they accountable to? Airbus? Big Money? lol

I don't think that promise holds any weight in politics, personally. I don't think we've seen a single example of that in the last 20 years.

draper · Jun 28, 2004

drfeelgood said:
The Conservatives on both the Provincial (Ontario) and Federal levels have messed this country up in the worst way. Mike Harris was a goof, and so was Brian Mulroney. I can't stand either one of them. I was not even a big Campbell fan. The NDP made the worst mess of Ontario that this Province has ever seen.

At least Martin knows how to balance a budget, unlike our Conservative friends. Therefore, I think that, although I don't agree with the Liberal policies on marriage and homosexuality, that my vote will go to the Liberals. In my riding it's Aileen Carroll.

That wasn't entirely the NDP's fault. Rae was thrust into a bunch of situations that were beyond his control.

Don't vote Liberal for the sake of not voting Conservative. At least vote NDP, to send Martin a message. The NDP will win a few ridings, but I think you can spend youre vote on them with confidence they won't form a governement (though I wish they would)

kermit the toad · Jun 28, 2004

Let me just say, this being the first time since I've been legal that there has been an election (therefore, it was my first time) the ballots are nothing like what I thought. So simple and basic. Not even a scantron, just "put an 'x' in the really big circle by your candidate."

Borealis · Jun 28, 2004

drfeelgood said:
The Conservatives on both the Provincial (Ontario) and Federal levels have messed this country up in the worst way. Mike Harris was a goof, and so was Brian Mulroney. I can't stand either one of them. I was not even a big Campbell fan. The NDP made the worst mess of Ontario that this Province has ever seen.

We agree on that last point, at least.

At least Martin knows how to balance a budget, unlike our Conservative friends. Therefore, I think that, although I don't agree with the Liberal policies on marriage and homosexuality, that my vote will go to the Liberals. In my riding it's Aileen Carroll.

One thing those Liberal attack ads didn't mention about Mulroney. Yes, when he left office the deficit was $42 Billion. Quite a hefty number. Question: what was the deficit in 1985, when he was first elected? Answer: $100 Billion. So he reduced it by more than half in eight years. Not too shabby, is it?

As for your vote, mine cancelled yours. Patrick Brown had my vote from day one; I even did some volunteer work on his campaign. Looks like the good guys didn't win this one, though...

Ah, well. A minority government means we'll get to try again in a couple of years at most. By then, hopefully people will recognize just how bad this Liberal government will be, especially with the NDP giving them the majority they need.

We need a shuddering smilie.

Borealis · Jun 28, 2004

kermit the toad said:
Let me just say, this being the first time since I've been legal that there has been an election (therefore, it was my first time) the ballots are nothing like what I thought. So simple and basic. Not even a scantron, just "put an 'x' in the really big circle by your candidate."

And yet, some people can't even do that properly. I worked as a Returning Officer in the 1997 election, and I saw a few ballots where people had actually filled in three circles, or crossed out names, or other really weird things.

Anyway, good for you for voting. Reps coming your way.

SirKenin · Jun 28, 2004

I'm very pleased to see a Liberal minority, with the NDP holding the balance of power. This will be a very interesting house... Now that I cast my vote, I can feel free to complain.. lol

wonder111 · Jun 28, 2004

same here

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