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Just a different perspective to consider...
“Contrary to the claims of some today, Christians are not required to worship on the Sabbath day. It, like the other Old Covenant holy days Paul mentions, is not binding under the New Covenant. There is convincing evidence for that in Scripture.
First, the Sabbath was the sign to Israel of the Old Covenant (Ex. 31:16-17; Neh. 9:14; Ezek. 20:12).
Exodus 31:16-17 The Israelites are to observe the Sabbath, celebrating it for the generations to come as a lasting covenant. It will be a sign between me and the Israelites forever, for in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day he abstained from work and rested.'"
Nehemiah 9:14 You made known to them your holy Sabbath and gave them commands, decrees and laws through your servant Moses.
Ezekiel 20:12 Also I gave them (the Israelites) my Sabbaths as a sign between us, so they would know that I the LORD made them holy.
Because we are now under the New Covenant (Heb. 8), we are no longer required to keep the sign of the Old Covenant.
Second, the New Testament nowhere commands Christians to observe the Sabbath.
Third, in our only glimpse of an early church worship service in the New Testament, we find the church meeting on Sunday, the first day of the week (Acts 20:7).
Acts 20:7 On the first day of the week we came together to break bread. Paul spoke to the people and, because he intended to leave the next day, kept on talking until midnight.
Fourth, we find no hint in the Old Testament that God expected the Gentile nations to observe the Sabbath, nor are they ever condemned for failing to do so. That is certainly strange if He expected all peoples to observe the Sabbath.
Fifth, there is no evidence of anyone’s keeping the Sabbath before the time of Moses, nor are there any commands to keep the Sabbath before the giving of the law at Mount Sinai.
Sixth, the Jerusalem Council did not impose Sabbath keeping on the Gentile believers (Acts 15) .
Seventh, Paul warned the Gentiles about many different sins in his epistles, but never about breaking the Sabbath.
Eighth, Paul rebuked the Galatians for thinking God expected them to observe special days (including the Sabbath) (Gal. 4:10-11).
Gal. 4:10-11 You are observing special days and months and seasons and years! I fear for you, that somehow I have wasted my efforts on you.
Col. 2:16-17 Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. (Sabbath day is singular; according to Greek scholars the KJV incorrectly translated it as plural in “an effort to transliterate the Aramaic sabbathah.” -A. T. Robertson, noted Greek scholar, and eminent Baptist scholar and professor). These (including the Sabbath) are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.
Ninth, Paul taught that keeping the Sabbath was a matter of Christian liberty (Rom. 14:5).
Romans 14:5 One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind.
Tenth, the early church fathers, from Ignatius to Augustine, taught that the Old Testament Sabbath had been abolished and that the first day of the week (Sunday) was the day when Christians should meet for worship. That disproves the claim of some that Sunday worship was not instituted until the fourth century.
- John MacArthur, Colossians & Philemon New Testament Commentary
Comments to support #10 can be included upon request
God bless,
H.
Three reasons why Christians don't worship on the Sabbath:Two reasons why people don't keep the Sabbath holy.
1. They don't love God.
2. They don't believe God.
Hupomone10 Three reasons why Christians don't worship on the Sabbath:
1. They love God and His Son, and worship Him
2. They believe God when He says through the Apostles that they are no longer under that yoke.
3. Therefore, they believe the whole counsel of God.
One reason people post threads in a congregational forum continuously over and over about one issue, such as the Sabbath:
1. It's an obsession.
We draw principles from the old testement to help understand certain details pertaining to truth.I'm curious. Can you please show me where Jesus says Saturday is the day on which we should worship. Or for that matter, where He said that the Sabbath is the day we should worship?
Notice that I said "worship". In your above oft-repeated post, you are inferring that we are wrong for worshiping on the Lord's day, the 1st, Sunday, rather than on the Sabbath or the 7th day. So there must be multiple references by Jesus to worshiping on the 7th and that we should worship on the 7th; please show them, quotes by Jesus.
But they must be quotes dealing with worship, rather than with honoring or reverencing or not working on said Sabbath...
...Jesus honored the Sabbath, but nowhere did He say that one should worship on the Sabbath. This was added by tradition of men, not from command of God.
If you get really frustrated at the lack of quotes from Jesus, I will entertain quotes from the O.T., since sabbath worshipers place themselves under the Mosaic Law anyway. However, you may find as I did, that we are told only to keep it holy and to rest on it performing no work, no command to worship on it.
Oh, I guess I should have mentioned it, thought I did. I do love God, I do remember that the Sabbath is the seventh day and that God sanctified it and set it aside. And I do honor it. I read the Scriptures and pray, and sometimes sing on the seventh, and fellowship with fellow believers. I also do this on Sunday thru Friday, most of the time.We know the seventh day was created as part of creation week.
We know the seventh day is a blessed and sanctifed day.
We know we still have a seventh day.
We know the seventh day has not been unblessed or made unholy.
So now, I know that I'm married.
I know we have a wedding anniversery.
I know I love my wife so I will use our wedding anniversery to express that love because our anniversery is a holy and blessed day and because I love my wife I will remember to keep it holy.
Do you love God? Then remember the day He blessed, sanctified and called holy.
Another reason is because it's an obsession. Same as with hyper-Calvinists who like to change every conversation about justification and faith into "where did faith come from" and "but who gave that faith?" Why do they do that? Because it's an obsession, just like this one.
One reason a person would call sharing God's truth an obsession might be because he is still at emnity with God.
I thought that might be the one you would select. This was a holy "convocation", and it is interesting that God didn't command them to meet together; He said this honoring of the seventh would be the holy convocation unto Him. Even though it does make reference to the event being a holy convocation, we don't find the practice of worship attending the Sabbath until the inter-testament time when they developed the synagogue and began to meet on Saturday in the synagogues. So, your interpretation and single scripture doesn't establish that one should change the day of worship from Sunday back to Saturday. Since I already told you I honor that day by praying, reading the Word, fellowshipping with fellow believers sometimes, and even occasionally singing, it in fact says absolutely nothing against what I already do on that day. But thanks for confirming that.We draw principles from the old testement to help understand certain details pertaining to truth.
We know that God blessed and sanctified the seventh day and He Himself rested on that day. We know He taught us about the seventh day in Exodus 16. We know He protected the seventh day in His Law in Exodus 20. We know He tells us to use the seventh day for sacred assembly.
And I do, as above mentioned, and I also eat on the sabbath as Jesus did with His disciples.And as is my custom, I read the Word, pray, talk with my fellow Christian wife and son, and sometimes others, and I even very frequently do a missionary activity: I provide electricity to hospitals, food kitchens, churches, and many other facilities so they can tend to the sick, hungry, and worship in the light instead of in the dark and cold.He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked.
And Jesus never once commanded anyone to worship on the Sabbath, and Christians who worship on the Lord's Day, the 1st, have not changed the Sabbath either, since Jesus nor the Father ever commanded His children to worship Him on the Sabbath; only to rest and thus keep it holy.Jesus never once did away with the Sabbath nor did He change the day.
Hupomone10;Oh, I guess I should have mentioned it, thought I did. I do love God, I do remember that the Sabbath is the seventh day and that God sanctified it and set it aside. And I do honor it. I read the Scriptures and pray, and sometimes sing on the seventh, and fellowship with fellow believers. I also do this on Sunday thru Friday, most of the time.
To each his own I guess.Another reason is because it's an obsession. Same as with hyper-Calvinists who like to change every conversation about justification and faith into "where did faith come from" and "but who gave that faith?" Why do they do that? Because it's an obsession, just like this one.
The word, convocation, means to assemble or public meeting.I thought that might be the one you would select. This was a holy "convocation", and it is interesting that God didn't command them to meet together; He said this honoring of the seventh would be the holy convocation unto Him. Even though it does make reference to the event being a holy convocation, we don't find the practice of worship attending the Sabbath until the inter-testament time when they developed the synagogue and began to meet on Saturday in the synagogues. So, your interpretation and single scripture doesn't establish that one should change the day of worship from Sunday back to Saturday. Since I already told you I honor that day by praying, reading the Word, fellowshipping with fellow believers sometimes, and even occasionally singing, it in fact says absolutely nothing against what I already do on that day. But thanks for confirming that.
I view the ten commandments in the same way James views them, as well as, how everyone else in the Bible views them, as a chain with ten links. If you break one, you've broke them all so when Jesus talks about obeying the commandments that includes the fourth commandment.And if you don't have verses to support where Jesus commanded to worship on the Sabbath, just say so.![]()
Amen...And I do, as above mentioned, and I also eat on the sabbath as Jesus did with His disciples.And as is my custom, I read the Word, pray, talk with my fellow Christian wife and son, and sometimes others, and I even very frequently do a missionary activity: I provide electricity to hospitals, food kitchens, churches, and many other facilities so they can tend to the sick, hungry, and worship in the light instead of in the dark and cold.![]()
Keeping the Sabbath holy is worshiping God.And Jesus never once commanded anyone to worship on the Sabbath, and Christians who worship on the Lord's Day, the 1st, have not changed the Sabbath either, since Jesus nor the Father ever commanded His children to worship Him on the Sabbath; only to rest and thus keep it holy.
I love everyone, even my enemies...Have a blessed day, and even in our disagreements, we can still love each other and accept each other in Christ.![]()
..i got a question to ask for those who CLAIMS that SABBATH was abolished...
first of all whats the big reason christ would remove the SABBATH observance since he declares that he rested on that day and sanctified it , and was a memorial of God creation
second Can you point out on the NEW COVENANT that christ himself teaches the sunday Observance instead of the Sabbath observance?
well if theres nothing in the new covenant, it is pretty obvious that sabbath still and was never been abolished..
by the way the hebrew word for sabbath was "shabbath" which means - is a weekly day of rest, observed from sundown on Friday until the appearance of three stars in the sky on Saturday night
..i got a question to ask for those who CLAIMS that SABBATH was abolished...
First and foremost: I do not delclare the Sabbath was abolished God does when it was prophesied in Jeremiah 31 and thru His servant Paul preaching it: Hebrews 8
first of all whats the big reason christ would remove the SABBATH observance since he declares that he rested on that day and sanctified it , and was a memorial of God creation
As the scriptures say for better promises: Hebrews 8: 6 But in fact the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which he is mediator is superior to the old one, since the new covenant is established on better promises.
second Can you point out on the NEW COVENANT that christ himself teaches the sunday Observance instead of the Sabbath observance?
No. He thru His servant Paul teach that all days are the same: Romans 14: 5 One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind. 6 Whoever regards one day as special does so to the Lord. Whoever eats meat does so to the Lord, for they give thanks to God; and whoever abstains does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God.
I do know this though which has been revealed to me thru His Holy Spirit as I with He alone have studied the Bible: Matthew 28:9
Suddenly Jesus met them. Greetings, he said. They came to him, clasped his feet and worshiped him.
How about you tell me what day this was, not that it makes any difference, just interesting.
well if theres nothing in the new covenant, it is pretty obvious that sabbath still and was never been abolished..
There is you will just not accept it. I have shown it above.
by the way the hebrew word for sabbath was "shabbath" which means - is a weekly day of rest, observed from sundown on Friday until the appearance of three stars in the sky on Saturday night.
I think you took this a little father than the actual meaning. Here is what it means in Hebrew: The word sabbath is from the Hebrew word SHABÀT, meaning cessation, or
time of rest. In the beginning God worked, but he also rested. Work and rest
are both in Gods plan, and both are in nature. God finishes all that he starts.
His created works were finished.
..thank you.. i'm just new here hehe![]()
I think you're in the right place here, k4c. These people will agree with you.
A question for you: What was the reason for the Sabbath in Exodus? Was it not a TYPE of JESUS?
We both know I am not hearing the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth here. I've made points and they've been either ignored or selectively answered; and when answered it is not directly but by beating around the bush. I'm going to be frank with you because of the unbridled, even if sincere, arrogance with which you make such a presumptive statement as the above one. Everyone thinks they possess the truth. We can blindly do so and still be humble and have respect for each other. Having said that, this is your forum, so I'm leaving.Stick around long enough and you'll agree too.
Truth does that to you...
We both know I am not hearing the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth here. I've made points and they've been either ignored or selectively answered; and when answered it is not directly but by beating around the bush. I'm going to be frank with you because of the unbridled, even if sincere, arrogance with which you make such a presumptive statement as the above one. Everyone thinks they possess the truth. We can blindly do so and still be humble and have respect for each other. Having said that, this is your forum, so I'm leaving.
As to the truth to which you refer, I already know I am crucified with Christ, as dead to the Law to which many Christians are still in bondage as I am dead to the flesh, Sin, Self, and the World. Rom. 7, 6, Gal 2:20.
Furthermore, it seems that perhaps other than not going to a meeting place on this seventh day you think is God's original Sabbath without any evidence to support the assumption, other than not going to meetings on that day, it would seem that I respect the day almost as much as you do.
There is no truth to be had here that I don't already have.
God bless,
H.