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How a Giant Space Habitat could be built incrementally and accumulate from village to nation.
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<blockquote data-quote="eclipsenow" data-source="post: 77405319" data-attributes="member: 274355"><p>I'm with you! I'm an extrovert - I <em>need </em>people to make a fool of myself around and get my energy. (Bit of an attention seeker.) <img src="http://www.maritime-sda-online.com/forums/images/graemlins/default/thumbsup.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":oldthumbsup:" title="Old Thumbsup :oldthumbsup:" data-shortname=":oldthumbsup:" /> I imagine the first moon colony will have a few people and a lot of robots. I'm not assuming human level AI here (AGI) - I'm assuming the robots are actually piloted by remote by people back here on earth. The light-lag is only just over a second, so that's possible. Anyway, what could start all this off is fleets of tele-operated robots on the moon building stuff. At first, maybe they're building fuel - as you suggested. Fire it down a maglev railgun back to Earth Orbit for a SpaceX starship. The maglev railgun is a super-cheap launch compared to Earth because (so the physicists tell me - I'm a humanities guy - not engineer) 1/6th the gravity is 1/24th the energy to launch. Which means solar-powered electric launching! Talk about a solar-powered "EV"!</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]337428[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p></p><p>What if those robots become very 'smart' AI? More like droids? Would they be able to make solar panels cheap enough on the moon that they can fire them back to Earth Orbit to run PowerSats that beam BASELOAD reliable solar down to earth? There's a way for space to get into the $10 TRILLION a year energy business. That might fund more moon infrastructure.</p><p></p><p>The "worker" in this situation is a smart droid. But if this is happening on the moon, then it's happening on earth as well. We're practically talking about a potential post-scarcity civilisation. If droids on earth can do the same trick practically for free, then they can build so much solar power on earth it overcomes the limitations of night time and winter. Overbuild is already modelled into today's renewable plans to cut storage costs. Droids doing it for free could cover all the world's fresh water reservoirs for 10 TIMES the electricity we use today, slow evaporation of our precious fresh water and give us abundant power without using ANY land.</p><p></p><p>So in this case, why would we go to the moon? Or, indeed, build O'Neil colonies from the moon and shoot them into space bit by bit?</p><p>One answer: land! We'd be <em>building </em>real estate.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="eclipsenow, post: 77405319, member: 274355"] I'm with you! I'm an extrovert - I [I]need [/I]people to make a fool of myself around and get my energy. (Bit of an attention seeker.) :oldthumbsup: I imagine the first moon colony will have a few people and a lot of robots. I'm not assuming human level AI here (AGI) - I'm assuming the robots are actually piloted by remote by people back here on earth. The light-lag is only just over a second, so that's possible. Anyway, what could start all this off is fleets of tele-operated robots on the moon building stuff. At first, maybe they're building fuel - as you suggested. Fire it down a maglev railgun back to Earth Orbit for a SpaceX starship. The maglev railgun is a super-cheap launch compared to Earth because (so the physicists tell me - I'm a humanities guy - not engineer) 1/6th the gravity is 1/24th the energy to launch. Which means solar-powered electric launching! Talk about a solar-powered "EV"! [ATTACH type="full"]337428[/ATTACH] What if those robots become very 'smart' AI? More like droids? Would they be able to make solar panels cheap enough on the moon that they can fire them back to Earth Orbit to run PowerSats that beam BASELOAD reliable solar down to earth? There's a way for space to get into the $10 TRILLION a year energy business. That might fund more moon infrastructure. The "worker" in this situation is a smart droid. But if this is happening on the moon, then it's happening on earth as well. We're practically talking about a potential post-scarcity civilisation. If droids on earth can do the same trick practically for free, then they can build so much solar power on earth it overcomes the limitations of night time and winter. Overbuild is already modelled into today's renewable plans to cut storage costs. Droids doing it for free could cover all the world's fresh water reservoirs for 10 TIMES the electricity we use today, slow evaporation of our precious fresh water and give us abundant power without using ANY land. So in this case, why would we go to the moon? Or, indeed, build O'Neil colonies from the moon and shoot them into space bit by bit? One answer: land! We'd be [I]building [/I]real estate. [/QUOTE]
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