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That's identical to what was said by many regarding the last two impeachments.
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That's identical to what was said by many regarding the last two impeachments.Maybe that just gave them the excuse they were looking for.
-- A2SG, except they seem to be having a bit of trouble gathering that pesky evidence....
Well, to be fair, there was evidence. The Senate chose not to view it, but it was there.That's identical to what was said by many regarding the last two impeachments.
No, that's an outright lie. The FBI were not telling people that the laptop was fake.
Not amazing at all. You just need to bother reading the reports.
It's all there, they talk about things that Lesley Wolf did, they don't talk about things Joe Biden did.
Well, that's not true. Where is evidence Joe was involved in Hunter's business dealings?
They have presented innuendo, but no direct evidence of anything tied to Joe.
Are we talking about the less than $4k loan repayment to Joe?Today, House Committee on Oversight and Accountability Chairman James Comer (R-Ky.) released subpoenaed bank records revealing Hunter Biden’s business entity, Owasco PC, made direct monthly payments to Joe Biden.
Where does it talk about Joe Biden in this?Hunter Biden is currently under an investigation by the Department of Justice for using the Owasco PC corporate account for tax evasion and other serious crimes.
Following subpoenas to obtain Biden family associates’ bank records, Chairman Comer issued subpoenas for Hunter and James Biden’s personal and business bank records. The House Oversight Committee has identified over 20 shell companies and uncovered how the Bidens and their associates raked in over $24 million dollars between 2015 and 2019 by selling Joe Biden as “the brand.” Financial records obtained show Hunter Biden’s business account, Owasco PC, received payments from Chinese-state linked companies and other foreign nationals and companies.
Are you talking about this?Bank statements show it goes into Joe's pocket at about 200k$ a month.
Feh. First is Biden's decline due to age. Second is smoke from allegations of bribes. All it takes is for his party to be convinced he'll lose the next election, and for the media to back them up - and most of the US media will say "How high?" when they say "Jump."This is nonsense. If the Democrats voted out Biden for nothing, then surely the voters would get upset and turn against them in the next election. Surely??????
Are we talking about the less than $4k loan repayment to Joe?
Or something else????
Where does it talk about Joe Biden in this?
Are you talking about this?
A subpoena of bank records of Biden family members has turned up a $200,000 payment in 2018 from James Biden to his brother Joe BidenCherry-Picking 'Influence' Payment from James to Joe Biden - FactCheck.org
A subpoena of bank records of Biden family members has turned up a $200,000 payment in 2018 from James Biden to his brother Joe Biden, and Rep. James Comer is citing it as proof "that Joe Biden benefited from his family’s influence peddling scheme." But bank records are consistent with White...www.factcheck.org
The $200,000 payment from James Biden on March 1, 2018, was labeled “loan repayment” in the memo field on the check, and Democrats on the oversight committee say bank records also show a payment from Joe Biden to his brother six weeks prior, which they say is consistent with a no-interest, short-term loan to James Biden.
FactCheck.org has obtained some of the bank records in question, and we’ll sort through the available evidence to date.
As we said, the check, dated March 1, 2018, and marked “loan repayment,” came on the same day that James Biden received a check for $200,000 from Americore.
“It’s a loan repayment from when President Biden loaned his brother money,” White House spokesman Ian Sams posted on X. “When he was out of office in 2018, no less. It’s right there on the check!”
Democrats on the committee said Republicans ignored that bank records also showed a payment in the same amount from Joe Biden to James Biden six weeks prior to that, consistent with the White House’s claim of a short-term loan.
“These records actually show that President Biden was the one who stepped in to help family members when they needed support, including by providing short term loans to his brother,” said Rep. Jamie Raskin,
“These bank records show that in 2017 and 2018, while President Biden was not in office, he provided two short-term loans to his brother, James, who repaid each loan within two months,” Raskin said
FactCheck.org obtained an Excel spreadsheet of wire transfer records and check images that are consistent with Raskin’s account.
Those records show two wire transfers from Joe Biden to a joint account for James and Sara Biden, one for $40,000 on July 28, 2017, and one for $200,000 on Jan. 12, 2018. The wires came from an “Attorney Trust Account” maintained by Joe Biden’s attorneys at the firm “MONZACK MERSKY MCLAUGHLIN BROWDER.”
A check image from Sept. 3, 2017, shows a $40,000 payment from a joint account for James and Sara Biden to Joe Biden (the check is signed by Sara Biden and is labeled “loan repayment” on the memo line). The payment was deposited into the same account from which the $40,000 wire payment was made 38 days prior.
An image of another check — the one highlighted by Comer — shows a $200,000 payment from a joint account for James and Sara Biden to Joe Biden on March 1, 2018. That’s 48 days after Joe Biden wired James Biden a similar amount. It, too, is noted as “loan repayment” in the memo line.
In an emailed statement to the Wall Street Journal, James Biden’s attorney, Paul Fishman, wrote, “The Committee has the bank documents that show both the loan Jim received from his brother in January 2018 and the repayment by check six weeks later. At no time did Jim involve his brother in any of his business relationships.”
“No, and they’re lying,” Comer said.
“At the end of the day, there’s no document that shows there was a loan,” Comer said. “The Democrats on the oversight committee, they get the same stuff that I subpoena. When I subpoena something, Maria, they make two copies, one for me, the Republicans, and one for the Democrats, Jamie Raskin. So if they had the darn document, they would have showed it. This is another example of their lies and the media takes it.”
But in a press release issued on Oct. 26 that echoed points made in a letter from Raskin to Comer the same day, Democrats on the oversight committee accused Comer of a “willingness to cherry-pick and misrepresent the content of these bank records.”
“Despite the Oversight Committee receiving the exact bank record showing that President Biden made a $200,000 interest-free loan to his brother James Biden, Chairman Comer has repeatedly omitted that fact, falsely suggesting President Biden is ‘$200,000 better off today because of his family’s influence peddling scheme,’” the release states
Again, our review of bank records did not show any documentation that wire transfers of $40,000 and $200,000 from Joe Biden to James Biden were loans. Perhaps there is no official documentation indicating that they were loans. However, images show James or Sara Biden writing checks to Joe Biden several weeks after those wire transfers in those exact same amounts, and with “loan repayment” listed in the memo lines. That’s consistent with the White House’s claim that these were short-term, no-interest loans.
I've colour coded the above exerpts from the FactCheck.org article.
Green are statements either coming from Democrats or Biden family members
Purple are coming from Comer
Red are coming from FactCheck.org
Everyone (Democrats, Comer and FactCheck) is in agreement that $200,000 was paid from James Biden to Joe Biden
The dispute is that Democrats say bank records show that 6 weeks prior Joe Biden loaned James Biden $200,000
Whereas Comer is saying that Bank records do not show that Joe loaned James money.
FactCheck say that the Bank records show that 6 weeks prior Joe Biden paid James Biden $200,000 but that it wasn't labelled in the bank records as a loan.
It doesn't matter who the Democrats put up as a leader, The Republicans with either find smoke or as in Joe's case will fabricate smoke. It's what they do.Feh. First is Biden's decline due to age. Second is smoke from allegations of bribes. All it takes is for his party to be convinced he'll lose the next election, and for the media to back them up - and most of the US media will say "How high?" when they say "Jump."
LOL, it turns out that you are talking exactly about this.Something else.
LOL again, nope, that other stuff had nothing to do with Joe Biden. It seems like some people are going to great lengths to focus on Joe, even when Joe isn't in the picture.Right there in the paragraph I quoted. Try reading it.
My family, we have had times where we have loaned each other money. It comes down to cash flow sometimes.Does that seem normal to you? James Biden, who apparently owns multiple companies that various foreign entities deposit money into...
So you are going with innuendo rather than facts?Needs a 200k$ loan one week....and pays it back 6 weeks later?
Well I guess strictly you can say a few payments were made to Biden, but they were loan repayments, not profit.Again...not what they're saying. Try reading what is actually being said.
President Joe Biden claimed there was an “absolute wall” between his official government duties and his family’s influence peddling schemes.
This was a lie.
President Joe Biden claimed his family didn’t receive money from China.
This was a lie.
President Joe Biden claimed he never spoke to his son, Hunter Biden, about the Biden family’s shady business dealings.
This was a lie.
Now, Hunter Biden’s legal team and the White House’s media allies claim Hunter’s corporate entities never made payments directly to Joe Biden.
We can officially add this latest talking point to the list of lies.
What I love about this Republican narrative is that they cherry pick to try and make something out of nothing. For people that dig a little deeper they very quickly realise that Comer is trying his hardest to fool people but instead looks like a total fool himself.Today, the House Oversight Committee is releasing subpoenaed bank records that show Hunter Biden’s business entity, Owasco PC, made direct monthly payments to Joe Biden.
This wasn’t a payment from Hunter Biden’s personal account but an account for his corporation that received payments from China and other shady corners of the world.
Comer has orders to gin up something. He's doing the best he can with what he has. Poor guy. If he doesn't follow like a good little apparachnick, he'll get primaried. All the republicans for whom principle and patriotism were more important than party have retired or been removed.What I love about this Republican narrative is that they cherry pick to try and make something out of nothing. For people that dig a little deeper they very quickly realise that Comer is trying his hardest to fool people but instead looks like a total fool himself.
1. Comer brings up a $200k payment from James to Joe and makes out it is the Biden family sharing corrupt money, but it turns out that 6 weeks prior, Joe have $200k to James and so the later payment was simply a loan repayment. Comer knew this because he had the record of that initial payment. So here he is trying to fool people into his narrative.
2. Comer is bringing up monthly payments. - Sounds scary right. But then when you bother to look, there are three monthly payments to the total sum of around $4,000. Wow, what a massive scandal. $4k. LOL. This happened in 2018 when Joe was merely a private citizen, he wasn't even in office, and as it turns out it was a loan repayment.
I'd rather be primaried than to try to fool people, especially when all the evidence is right there and so people will very quickly know what you are up to.Comer has orders to gin up something. He's doing the best he can with what he has. Poor guy. If he doesn't follow like a good little apparachnick, he'll get primaried. All the republicans for whom principle and patriotism were more important than party have retired or been removed.
The “corruption” is how to make man honest man appear to be “shady”.Comer has orders to gin up something. He's doing the best he can with what he has. Poor guy. If he doesn't follow like a good little apparachnick, he'll get primaried. All the republicans for whom principle and patriotism were more important than party have retired or been removed.
Or anonymity, or holding other assets, or isolating liabilities. There are plenty of legal and legitimate uses for them.Well typically the point of shell companies is money laundering.
I bet it doesn't even get out of committee, especially when the polls show Reps taking a hit for the clown show.Feh. Republican supporters will rub their hands with glee; Democrat supporters will say "Crime? What crime?" and even if the House returns articles of impeachment, Democrats in the Senate have the votes not to convict.
That literally cannot happen because the "Democrat Party" doesn't exist.A wild-card situation to watch for: There's a slim chance that the Democrat Party may see this as a means to prevent Joe Biden from running. Very slim, but it's still possible.
That is some very dishonest spin. Donald was shaking down Zelenskyy to get him to open a fake investigation into Hunter so it would hurt President Biden in the election.it happened twice to the last President, once just for asking about Hunter's shady business dealings in Ukraine,
That is an even greater dishonest spin. House Resolution 24 clearly states that he was impeached for incitement of insurrection.and the other time because , even though he didn't go, and told the people at a rally to walk to the Capitol and"peacefully and patriotically make their voices heard, he was impeached for the riot that ensued. The Secret Service would not let him go.
LOL, it turns out that you are talking exactly about this.
LOL again, nope, that other stuff had nothing to do with Joe Biden. It seems like some people are going to great lengths to focus on Joe, even when Joe isn't in the picture.
My family, we have had times where we have loaned each other money.
So you are going with innuendo rather than facts?
Well I guess strictly you can say a few payments were made to Biden, but they were loan repayments, not profit.
It would be great if you could point out where anything criminal or unethical has happened.
What I love about this Republican narrative is that they cherry pick to try and make something out of nothing.
For people that dig a little deeper they very quickly realise that Comer is trying his hardest to fool people but instead looks like a total fool himself.
2. Comer is bringing up monthly payments. - Sounds scary right. But then when you bother to look, there are three monthly payments to the total sum of around $4,000. Wow, what a massive scandal. $4k. LOL. This happened in 2018 when Joe was merely a private citizen, he wasn't even in office, and as it turns out it was a loan repayment.
I'm not a Biden supporter. I've never voted for him, I've never voted Democrat, I've never donated money to him or to Democrats, I've never promoted anyone to vote Joe Biden or Democrat, I've never bought Biden or Democrat merchandise.I'm not sure what affliction seems to be impairing Biden supporters.
You haven't provided any evidence, you just repeat the nonsense of Comer.They ask for evidence, it's given, then they suddenly can't see it. Perhaps it's some contagious sort of rapid onset hysterical blindness.
LOL. If you say so. I don't know what cheques have to do with anything. Cheques are redundant, I don't think anyone in NZ uses cheques.Sure. These aren't loans though, they are direct deposits. No checks involved.
LOL. Everything points to them being loans.There's nothing to suggest that these are loans.
Accepting piles of cash, lol.I don't think accepting piles of cash is "nothing" and there's plenty more evidence where that came from....
It's pretty clear by now that republicans are determined to have an impeachment, regardless of the evidence. I suspect that might be a tough sell, because even most republicans now don't think there's evidence for it. And the republican reps from swing districts know what that will mean for them if they go along with the radicals.Accepting piles of cash, lol.
A $200,000 repayment, 6 weeks after giving $200,000 as a loan. You are fooling no one.
And then there are three paymens of around $1,300 . piles of cash? LOL?? and done while a person is a private citizen and you are trying to claim influence peddling? Joe Biden the private citizen is accepting bribes of $1,300 wow! How can anyone believe this nonsense. No one does believe it. And yet the hyper partisan MAGA faithful keep pushing this desperate narrative. Good luck with that. You just make fools of yourselves.
What will the American people learn when it is exposed that Joe Biden loaned his own brother MONEY and then his own brother paid him back?It's pretty clear by now that republicans are determined to have an impeachment, regardless of the evidence. I suspect that might be a tough sell, because even most republicans now don't think there's evidence for it. And the republican reps from swing districts know what that will mean for them if they go along with the radicals.
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