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Langley

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The wife and I lead a home group every other week. Though i always seem to enjoy it there is just 1 chap who is just hard work. Can't put my finger on it but he is difficult to talk to about normal stuff but then like to show is knowledge about biblical stuff almost to a point of making others feel a bit crap.

How do you deal with these folk?

The others in the group do roll their eye brows when he has one of his moments and that is entertaining. Basically i think he is kind of creaps but thats just me
 

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If he is using his knowledge of scripture to make others feel like crap then it may be worth having a chat between you and him. of course you wouldn't do this in front of the others. but as a leader it is something you have to consider. if you think he is in the wrong and disrupting the group, I see nothing wrong with letting him know how you feel. I am sure you could find some scripture to back up your concerns.
 
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If he won't listen to soft reasoning, depending on how bad the behavior is, you may need to find a way to bring the foolishness to the surface. There are a couple of Proverbs about answering a fool, that offer paradoxical wisdom. When he expounds inappropriately on his knowledge, ask him how this has helped him in his walk with the Lord. Keep the pressure on and ask him to be specific. If it gets bad enough, an open reproof may be called for.
 
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Some people are constitutionally difficult, others need to be addressed. I have had such people in our groups. In the first case others took our lead and accommodated them without much bother. The other type can be a bother and you will need some wisdom how best to approach him.

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We've had 'house church' for a few years now, and GOD has done some amazing things. But remember that its HIS body (not yours or mine). One time JESUS reminded me that "sheep don't own sheep". So, you really need a confirmed word about how to handle someone like this, from the HEAD - JESUS HIMSELF, telling you how to say it/ when to do it.

If you pray and ask, and be patient, HE will lead HIS flock. (even in regarding this).

Saying all that don't be surprised if (led by the SPIRIT) you ask this particular person to not share because unless its shared in love (edification for the entire group) then it should NOT be shared.

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LOVE builds up. (1 Corinthians 8:1)

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The wife and I lead a home group every other week. Though i always seem to enjoy it there is just 1 chap who is just hard work. Can't put my finger on it but he is difficult to talk to about normal stuff but then like to show is knowledge about biblical stuff almost to a point of making others feel a bit crap.

How do you deal with these folk?

The others in the group do roll their eye brows when he has one of his moments and that is entertaining. Basically i think he is kind of creaps but thats just me
If he is giving you the creaps, It may be a spiritual warning.......remember satan likes to quote scripture too
 
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I would agree in asking for God's guidance on how to deal with this guy. He obviously has problems and you don't want to make things worse for him but you also need to protect the rest of the group too. Only God knows what is at the root of all this behaviour and He has the best solution for it.
 
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How do you deal with these folk?

In the movie War Games was a brief scene where two nerds who work together have a sort of confrontation. One tells the other one, "Remember that conversation we had where you asked me to let you know when you were being annoying? Well you are being annoying now".

I thought that was brilliant because so little is presented in media regarding how to deal in a real way with personality problems. Satan has been advancing his plan for global collectivization for centuries. Part of this process is the social homogenization of people. While in the not too distant past there were quite a number of "characters", today the odd person is usually shunned.

There are a variety of reasons for people to have poor social skills. A common one is with bright people who view with terror the adolescent social milieu and withdraw such that they have [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] social development. There are others often less bright for whom the fear of social consequence has had no inhibiting effect and walk through life without regard for their effect on others.

If a one time encounter, forbearance is usually indicated. A repetitious encounter usually requires a private conversation. In the conversation the person is asked if they are aware that they have (whatever the characteristic is). They will generally be unaware, indifferent, or in disagreement.

The person who was unaware, can be most easily helped with a feedback system that can be used even with humor to help ease any social discomfort such as saying that the next time this happens I will give you a subtle signal such as flapping one arm like a chicken.

For the person who is indifferent or in disagreement, you can mention that as an experiment the next time they have a negative effect on people, you can stop the conversation and ask the person if they feel they have been insulted or inhibited from discussion.

Most people will work with you if they understand that they are causing a problem. This is usually best presented with the assumption that the person is unaware of the effect he is producing. Even if the person feels he has done nothing "wrong", he can be appealed to to restrain his behavior for the sake of someone else as an act of Christian charity.

If you as a leader have difficulty in broaching the subject with someone, you can, in private, ask their observations of the group and ask if they have noticed any time when enthusiastic discussion seems to wane.

It can be a good practice to ignore the obvious effect (seeming like a know it all) and inquire about underlying possibilities. This can avoid some reflexive defensive reactions you might encounter. For example, you may ask someone if they feel that others in the group have given them reason to believe that their Christian knowledge is limited. You can then say that sometimes a person may feel the need to verbally "establish their credentials" so that their comments will be received with more weight.
 
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I know I am not interested in exchanges that have nothing to do with GOD. We are told to make GOD our only boast. So, if this guy comes across as boastful about what GOD is Teaching him and Inspiring in him, it just might be the case. If he is being "narrow" minded in this way; in his way, then maybe it is because he is on that narrow path. The question then becomes, why would this creap you out? Why is there "normal" discussion and then spiritual discussion? Why are matters divided? A divided household wil not stand, whether the house divided is a group of people or our own individual inner household. We cannot serve two masters.

Just another perspective to look at this matter from.
 
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I'm going to give you another line of thought as to where this guy might be coming from. I only have the one trait and I'd need like 5 to feel some level of certiany that this might be his situation.

He might be autistic. But since he knows the Bible very well and I assume a few other topics well while being socially ackward. He might be aspergers. If that is the case, he will have a hard time reading other people and what their body expressions are telling him. He may appear shy at times. Good chance you guys are about the best friends he has even when you would never think of yourself as being a friend to him.

I don't know from the little you said. but does what I say fit him?
 
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On reading the OP, I was thinking exactly the same - it fits with the description. However, it's not a good idea to assume, just in case that's not the reason - but it may be helpful in exploring how to approach the situation.

Have you considered having a chat with him privately to see if he realises how he's coming across? Or to try and avert the situations where he takes over the conversation, is there a way of making the group a bit more structured (not ideal, but may be an option?) for a while to see if that helps with the dynamics?

I'm going to give you another line of thought as to where this guy might be coming from. I only have the one trait and I'd need like 5 to feel some level of certiany that this might be his situation.

He might be autistic. But since he knows the Bible very well and I assume a few other topics well while being socially ackward. He might be aspergers. If that is the case, he will have a hard time reading other people and what their body expressions are telling him. He may appear shy at times. Good chance you guys are about the best friends he has even when you would never think of yourself as being a friend to him.

I don't know from the little you said. but does what I say fit him?
 
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How do you deal with these folk?

First off, anyone who has led home groups for a sustained period of time empathizes with you.

Before you begin your next group discussion, ask everyone to do their best to keep their comments on topic. This way, you're informing everyone and giving everyone a chance to figure it out. Sometimes this solves it.

One night I had a lady trying to fix everyone's problems. Someone would open up and she would quickly cut in and give them 3 steps to take care of their issue. She did it twice and I made a mental note, before the next meeting I reminded the group to make the group a safe place to share by not trying to immediately counsel. I explained that most of us just want to be heard and none of us our experts here. Never had an issue with her again.

If the public exhortation doesn't work, you seriously need to pull the person aside afterwards and articulate your expectations. Say something like, "When you do this, it can cause someone to feel like this..." You might also want to pull the potentially offended person aside and let them know your sorry it happened, you've talked to the offender privately and won't let it happen again.

If all that doesn't work, the next time they do it, you'll have to step up as a leader and publicly cut them off and correct them. If the person gets offended and leaves, the group will support you and be more endeared to you as their leader.

Hope this helps!
 
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