Holy Creation REALLY Holy

[Kyrisch]

So, there are tons of holes in the belief of Creationism: The "turtles all the way down" problem; the anachronisms abound; the Old Testament includes two contradicting version; the list goes on ad infinitum.

But the point of the this is really Evolution. Evolution HAS NO HOLES. It leaves a few questions unanswered, sure, but the processes which it outlines and identifies mechanisms for are completely sound from the point of view of one well-versed in chemistry and biology. What I find is most, if not all of the arguments against evolution stem from misunderstanding the science.

NO! Man did NOT evolve from apes. We share a common ancestor.
NO! Lightning did not strike a rock and out pops life. That's creation. Life came from a system of organic molecules that stuck together because the environment and chemistry was right.

These things are just misconceptions of the science. Learn the science, and evolution will make sense!

 

[busterdog]

Take down the demon avatar.

Don't expect creationists to speak to blasphemy.

 

[Assyrian]

Says he with a Chimp snogging signature

 

[Kyrisch]

It is a Satyr...

 

[juvenissun]

These things are just misconceptions of the science. Learn the science, and evolution will make sense!

Learn MORE science, then you will wake up.
It is like a college kid who thinks he knows everything.

 

[Calminian]

Learn MORE science, then you will wake up.
It is like a college kid who thinks he knows everything.

I think you're both wrong. Learn the limitations of science, and you'll better understand the Creator who is not confined to natural law.

 

[RobertByers]

Origin subjects are all about data and conclusions. Origin subjects don't deal with science. Creationism does not argue with science but rather history in the guise of science. We are saying its not a doctor but a nurse.
If evolution had science behind it on the important conclusions then it would show it and be persuasive to all people. Instead it all relys on faith in the authority of the self proclaimed "expert".
Show us the money.
There is so much yak about evolution is true and the bible isn't true but little meat and potatoes backing evolution.
Evolution will never stop its demise till it makes its case on the merits.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Evolution is being repackaged to be more acceptable. Kinda like Intelligent Design is repackaged Creationism. (I have no dog in this fight, however. I'm jes sayin'.)

owg

 

[shernren]

Kyrisch: I thought that was a faun, not a satyr. How do the two differ? Are both different names for the same thing?

Busterdog: Remember the last time you tried to call someone on blasphemyhttp://christianforums.com/showthread.php?t=7232454&page=2? ^^

I asked you to define blasphemy. You won't.

As it stands, I have to believe your definition is "stuff that offends busterdog."

 

[Assyrian]

Fauns were from Roman mythology but they identified them with Greek satyrs.

And fauns are more likely to invite you in for a cup of tea.

 

[juvenissun]

I think you're both wrong. Learn the limitations of science, and you'll better understand the Creator who is not confined to natural law.

You are jumping.

1. Learn science
2. Learn more science
3. "know" the limitation of science.

You can not "learn" the third one.

 

[gluadys]

If evolution had science behind it on the important conclusions then it would show it and be persuasive to all people.

And, in fact, it is---to all people who actually study and work with the science.

 

[gluadys]

You are jumping.

1. Learn science
2. Learn more science
3. "know" the limitation of science.

You can not "learn" the third one.

Yes you can. And you have to. You can't know the limitations of science without learning them.

 

[crawfish]

Evolution will never stop its demise till it makes its case on the merits.

The ONLY people who think evolution is on a demise are those who delve completely into creationism. Everybody else sees it becoming stronger.

Denial is not just a river in Egypt...

 

[juvenissun]

Yes you can. And you have to. You can't know the limitations of science without learning them.

Hi, Gluadys.
I agree with you on this.

 

[busterdog]

Fauns were from Roman mythology but they identified them with Greek satyrs.

And fauns are more likely to invite you in for a cup of tea.

I have a meadow muffin for you, but its not good with tea.

Look at the avatar. Its what it looks like, not what someone says it is. Read the sig. Read the profile.

 

[Assyrian]

I have a meadow muffin for you, but its not good with tea.

Look at the avatar. Its what it looks like, not what someone says it is. Read the sig. Read the profile.

You mean a demon? You know what demons look like? If you have pictures in you bible I can assure you they are added illustrations and not in any Greek or Hebrew manuscripts we have (well maybe The Book of Kells).

There are fauns in the Narnia chronicles, cloven hooves, hairy legs and horns. Should we ban the Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe? There are satyrs in the King James Bible, Isaiah 13:21 But wild beasts of the desert shall lie there; and their houses shall be full of doleful creatures; and owls shall dwell there, and satyrs shall dance there. Perhaps we should ban people who keep quoting the AV.

But if you want to judge people on what the pictures in their avatar or signature look like, check out Exodus 22:19, Lev 8:23 and Lev 20:15&16 first. Matt 7:1 Judge not, that you be not judged. 2 For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Come on busterdog, we have been saved by grace, God's love has been poured into our hearts, we should be gracious in the way we treat others too.

 

[shernren]

Oh oh! I know what demons look like!

... what do you mean I'm missing a ligature? ^^

 

[atomweaver]

I have a meadow muffin for you, but its not good with tea.

Look at the avatar. Its what it looks like, not what someone says it is. Read the sig. Read the profile.

Alrighty. I read your profile. I got to your "Occupation" line, and judged that you are at least as blasphemous as you purport the OP to be for his avatar...

 

[busterdog]

You mean a demon? You know what demons look like? If you have pictures in you bible I can assure you they are added illustrations and not in any Greek or Hebrew manuscripts we have (well maybe The Book of Kells).

There are fauns in the Narnia chronicles, cloven hooves, hairy legs and horns. Should we ban the Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe? There are satyrs in the King James Bible, Isaiah 13:21 But wild beasts of the desert shall lie there; and their houses shall be full of doleful creatures; and owls shall dwell there, and satyrs shall dance there. Perhaps we should ban people who keep quoting the AV.

But if you want to judge people on what the pictures in their avatar or signature look like, check out Exodus 22:19, Lev 8:23 and Lev 20:15&16 first. Matt 7:1 Judge not, that you be not judged. 2 For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Come on busterdog, we have been saved by grace, God's love has been poured into our hearts, we should be gracious in the way we treat others too.

More liberal nonsense on the bible. Lets see, in your judgment, should Spain join the EU? If I make as much sense as you, the response would be," God forbid, you would go to h e double hockey sticks for passing "judgment.""

THe need to take down the avatar is good judgment. If you think I have passed on the guy's character or salvation, or wish that I had, again, trying re-reading until you get it.

If it were pornographic, my "judgment" would be to take it down. Would that be ungracious? Come on. What are you saying? That I have no right (or God forbids me) to post an opinion about the use of symbols on a Christian website?