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Funny - creation scientists say more or less the same about evolution - it's [evolution] a belief system masquerading as science and leads to bad theology/atheism.
But by doing it that way, only scientists get to debate the issues, with all the allegations of corruption/bias/selectivity of experimental data, etc, so in the end, no-one outside the relevant academic circles knows who is closer to the truth. Also, I'm pretty sure that if it weren't for the blanket coverage of evolution in the popular media, creation science would be even more popular than it currently is (amongst non-scientists).That would make sense if live TV debates were a good way to settle scientific questions. They're not: they're a good way to determine who's a better TV debater. Instead, how about we have a debate in the scientific literature, where scientific questions actually are settled. The problem, of course, is that debate took place long ago, and was overwhelmingly decided against creationism.
But by doing it that way, only scientists get to debate the issues, with all the allegations of corruption/bias/selectivity of experimental data, etc, so in the end, no-one outside the relevant academic circles knows who is closer to the truth. Also, I'm pretty sure that if it weren't for the blanket coverage of evolution in the popular media, creation science would be even more popular than it currently is (amongst non-scientists).
Once again, the creation scientists claim that the evolutionists do the same thing in defence of their world view.Evolution is a threat to their personal theology, what other choice do they have, then to engage their defense mechanisms?
So why have they issued a challenge to debate with them and why do evolutionists keep turning them down? It appears to me that they are running scared.The problem is, they have no science, so they can not have scientific discussions.
But by doing it that way, only scientists get to debate the issues, with all the allegations of corruption/bias/selectivity of experimental data, etc, so in the end, no-one outside the relevant academic circles knows who is closer to the truth. Also, I'm pretty sure that if it weren't for the blanket coverage of evolution in the popular media, creation science would be even more popular than it currently is (amongst non-scientists).
So why have they issued a challenge to debate with them and why do evolutionists keep turning them down? It appears to me that they are running scared.
Because God, creator of the universe and all life is way more clever than any human could ever hope to be. Even with all our knowledge and expertise, we cannot even come close to creating life from lifeless chemicals and yet we are supposed to beleive that some unknown process did it all by itself and then, without any guidance whatsoever, organised itself so that it could not only reproduce but also evolve into ever more complex life forms. To believe that, takes anothing but blind faith and a lot of it. Ann Christians are accused of believing in miracles??!every single hypothesis in regards to this matter has an insurmountable problem associated with it.
Yes, and I agree Mr Ham was not very effective in putting his position across. However, if the boot had been on the other foot, Mr Ham would have been accused of Gish gushing or whatever it's called, because that's certainly what it seemed to me that Mr Nye was doing.Did you see the Nye/Hamm debate?
Because God, creator of the universe and all life is way more clever than any human could ever hope to be. Even with all our knowledge and expertise, we cannot even come close to creating life from lifeless chemicals and yet we are supposed to beleive that some unknown process did it all by itself
Yes, and I agree Mr Ham was not very effective in putting his position across. However, if the boot had been on the other foot, Mr Ham would have been accused of Gish gushing or whatever it's called, because that's certainly what it seemed to me that Mr Nye was doing.
I can't watch it in the UK.Here is one reason though, why many scientists, don't waste their time with creationists. The ignorance and denial displayed by the creationist on this video, is off the charts:
Yes, and I agree Mr Ham was not very effective in putting his position across. However, if the boot had been on the other foot, Mr Ham would have been accused of Gish gushing or whatever it's called, because that's certainly what it seemed to me that Mr Nye was doing.
this didn't happen in the case of barbara mcclintok.Typically, when a field has problems with corruption, bias, and selectivity of experimental data, most of the scientists in that field are publicly complaining about it.
this didn't happen in the case of barbara mcclintok.
her research was ridiculed by the establishment itself.
that's the 64 dollar question isn't it.The 'establishment'? Who, exactly, was that?
most likely because so must data had become available they couldn't effectively squash it all.It's also important to note that Barbara's work was eventually recognized and accepted, and she would even go on to recieve as Nobel Prize.
that's the 64 dollar question isn't it.
not only who, but how, this could have happened.
this doesn't bode well for "a self correcting" mechanism.
most likely because so must data had become available they couldn't effectively squash it all.
eventually, as in 40 to 50 years later.
the fact still remains though, why would barbara be ridiculed like this, even to the point to where she quit publishing?
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