History of Christianity

[Targaryen]

Two videos I'm presenting here, over 6 hours of viewing but I think this series of two videos is worth exploring:

History of Christianity-The first 1000 years:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKOoPcHxPhU

History of Christianity- The second 1000 years:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxEeBYWkLOg

 

[Mama Kidogo]

Could you direct me to the Reader's Digest condensed version? 6 hours is a bit much.

 

[Targaryen]

I'll condensed each hour down into it's relevant parts once I've watched the whole...I assumed though this would be intriguing watching and another good choice for discussion

 

[squint]

Could you direct me to the Reader's Digest condensed version? 6 hours is a bit much.

Here is the 3 minute version of the same story:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-evIyrrjTTY&list=FLoUfKb-Dh0YSzbe2ovRFceg&index=1

 

[Targaryen]

Not even close to it

 

[squint]

Not even close to it

I started watching it, expecting a very rosy spin on the matters from the preamble, so far.

Our real christian history is not as pretty as many care to actually deal with.

We seem to be exceptionally fond of colonization and take overs of populations and resources. In the Name of Jesus, of course.

There just weren't enough powerful Inca's, American Indians, Africans, Aborigine's or suitably powerful enough powerful gods on their sides to protect them or their heathen ways of life, huh?

I just wonder what we're going to end up doing with Chinese, Indians and Middle Easterners.

 

[Targaryen]

Maybe actually watch it in full before commenting then? Or allow me to sum up the important points before commenting?

2000 years in 6 hours has a lot to cover.

 

[CaDan]

Does it cover the Church of the East?

 

[Targaryen]

Yes, it covers from the time of the Apostles to modern day.

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

Only 30 min in until the answer of women's authority and the diminishing of to adhere to Roman gvmnt to form bishops is explained

 

[Targaryen]

Condesation of History of Christianity-the first 1000 years.


1st hour: The Apostles after Christ's time on earth and the beggining of the church, first presecutions and Paul's conversion, the minstry of Paul and outward exapnsion, the conversion of Gentiles and changing of Christianty away from Jewish roots, The persecutions by Rome, Christianty during the Persecution,catecomb and house churches, roles in the house churches, Ignatius of Antioch and the new model of christian leadership, rise of christianity in Roman society, Constantine and the conversion, The Edict of Milan, the change of the day of worship, gnosticism.

2nd hour: Continuation of Gnosticism, The council of Nicea, the concepts of the Trinty and the Arian view and Athanisius, The Nicene Creed, the canonization of the New Testament, beginning of monasticism, the first corporate monasteries, aestheticism, St.Augustine, the East/West spilt of the Empire and the beginnings of the Dark Ages, The politicalization of the Bishop of Rome and title Pope, the first assertion of Rome's primacy, Attila, the end of the Roman Empire, St.Patrick's ministry in Ireland, celtic monastery christianity, The Byzantine Empire, The Seven Ecumentical Councils, monophysites, Chalcedon, the Oriental schism and fallout, Justinian and Theodora,monophysite ascendancy under Theodora and monophysite Patriarch of Constantinople, Hagia Sophia completed,
the eastern attempt to retake the West

3rd Hour: Attempt at monophysite/orthodox reconcilliation, monphysite re-persecution,rise of Islam, Islamic conquests, Oriental church resurgence under Islamic rule, Leo VI and the veneration of icons,the east/west
gap widens, Charles Martel saves Western Christian Europe, Dark Age impact on Christianity,The bishop of Rome redemands primacy of the Church, Rome's power in the West grows, the nobles fight for the Roman papacy, Charlemagne,The Holy Roman Empire, Byzantine reaction to Charlemagne Imperial coronation, Charlemagne's conversion style,
his training of western clergy, the vikings, the rise of Mary in Western theology, the first apocolyptic thoughts in christian theology, Pope John XII and his excesses, Sylvester II, Europe is finally christianized in full,
The Great Schism, Pope and Emporer stand off and the Emporer is excommunicated then reconciled after admitting papal church authority.

 

[prodromos]

It's "emperor", not "emporer"

 

[Targaryen]

Meh it's late I'll have the second part condesation up tommorow

 

[MoreCoffee]

History is interesting but it is a story told by somebody rather than the bare facts as we have them and even the facts that we have can be presented by the source to serve the source's purposes. The bible itself is a source about our religion that is clearly written to serve purposes related to faith and doctrine and practises rather than a neutral presentation of events .... six hours for two thousand years is good going; it equates to about 400 pages of text which is a rather short history of Christianity.

 

[squint]

3rd Hour: Attempt at monophysite/orthodox reconcilliation, monphysite re-persecution,rise of Islam, Islamic conquests, Oriental church resurgence under Islamic rule, Leo VI and the veneration of icons,the east/west
gap widens, Charles Martel saves Western Christian Europe, Dark Age impact on Christianity,The bishop of Rome redemands primacy of the Church, Rome's power in the West grows, the nobles fight for the Roman papacy, Charlemagne,The Holy Roman Empire, Byzantine reaction to Charlemagne Imperial coronation, Charlemagne's conversion style,
his training of western clergy, the vikings, the rise of Mary in Western theology, the first apocolyptic thoughts in christian theology, Pope John XII and his excesses, Sylvester II, Europe is finally christianized in full,
The Great Schism, Pope and Emporer stand off and the Emporer is excommunicated then reconciled after admitting papal church authority.

yeah. To me that kind of summarizes it.

Compromise compromise compromise with the world.

The real history of christianity? Politics as usual.

 

[Targaryen]

Squint....if you're not interested in the FULL story, then ignore the thread.

 

[squint]

Squint....if you're not interested in the FULL story, then ignore the thread.

Is there a happy ending?

 

[PaladinValer]

Ignore any posts that do nothing but negatively detract from the purpose of the thread. Better yet, report them for that reason.

CaDan...is that the CaDan? WHERE THE BLOODY BLUE BLAZES HAVE YOU BEEN?! Welcome back! Good to see a poster of your caliber return!

OP, I will be very happy to check out those videos when I can and will be more than happy to participate in the thread at that time. Just give me one or two days to have the time!

 

[squint]

It remains entirely debatable whether the 'church' remained 'christian' at the Constantine transition. It was at that point it, the church, became a worldly compromised annihilator of it's perceived enemies. A veritable bullying killer.

Many see that event as a dire turning point away from christianity.

 

[Targaryen]

Cheers Paladin Sure thing