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<blockquote data-quote="Agrippa" data-source="post: 10794083" data-attributes="member: 23310"><p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">The slaves of General Grant's <em>wife</em> (they were not his) appear to have been freed by January 1865 at the latest (when Missouri abolished slavery). Grant owned one slave during his life; he obtained the man in late 1858 under unknown circumstances and, though in financial difficulty, freed him in early 1859 rather than sell him.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">The US nearly abolished the slave trade in 1789; every state but two supported the move. The dissenters, as might be expected, were South Carolina and Georgia. So, a twenty year moratorium was placed on the issue. The northern states abolished the slave trade on their own and, as soon as the twenty years passed (1808), the slave trade was abolished in the US Constitution.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">If you rail against the Emancipation Proclamation as a political measure, you should also rail against the slave trade clause in the Confederate Constitution, which was done to try to garner help from the United Kingdom (they may have helped a nation with slavery, they certainly wouldn't have helped a nation involved in the slave trade).</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Lincoln acknowledge that right, but only as a right of revolution rather than a right of secession. He acknowledged the right of the state to suppress rebellions and called the idea of the right of secession 'soliphism'.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Lincoln abhorred slavery but believed he had no legal right to end it in the states. If Lincoln were the tyrant Confederate symphathizers claimed him to be, he never would have said that. He used what means he thought he possessed; for example, before issuing the Emancipation Proclamation, he constantly tried to get delegations from Delaware, Maryland and the Union slave states to agree to a program of compensated emancipation.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Grant opposed slavery, but he, like Lincoln, saw the primary motive of the war the preservation of the Union, <em>regardless</em> of his feelings towards the south's Peculiar Institution.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">The goal of the war may not of been to end slavery but those involved knew just how closely connected the two issues (secession and slavery) were.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p><p></p><p>Did Lincoln every make secret that his primary goal was the preservation of the Union? The major emphasis of the Emanicpation Proclamation was freedom for most slaves. Lincoln believed he did not have the power to free slaves in states that remained loyal (hence Delaware, Maryland, and others were exlcuded). Notice the phrasing:</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Agrippa, post: 10794083, member: 23310"] [indent] The slaves of General Grant's [i]wife[/i] (they were not his) appear to have been freed by January 1865 at the latest (when Missouri abolished slavery). Grant owned one slave during his life; he obtained the man in late 1858 under unknown circumstances and, though in financial difficulty, freed him in early 1859 rather than sell him. [/indent][indent] The US nearly abolished the slave trade in 1789; every state but two supported the move. The dissenters, as might be expected, were South Carolina and Georgia. So, a twenty year moratorium was placed on the issue. The northern states abolished the slave trade on their own and, as soon as the twenty years passed (1808), the slave trade was abolished in the US Constitution. If you rail against the Emancipation Proclamation as a political measure, you should also rail against the slave trade clause in the Confederate Constitution, which was done to try to garner help from the United Kingdom (they may have helped a nation with slavery, they certainly wouldn't have helped a nation involved in the slave trade). [/indent][indent] Lincoln acknowledge that right, but only as a right of revolution rather than a right of secession. He acknowledged the right of the state to suppress rebellions and called the idea of the right of secession 'soliphism'. [/indent][indent] Lincoln abhorred slavery but believed he had no legal right to end it in the states. If Lincoln were the tyrant Confederate symphathizers claimed him to be, he never would have said that. He used what means he thought he possessed; for example, before issuing the Emancipation Proclamation, he constantly tried to get delegations from Delaware, Maryland and the Union slave states to agree to a program of compensated emancipation. [/indent][indent] Grant opposed slavery, but he, like Lincoln, saw the primary motive of the war the preservation of the Union, [i]regardless[/i] of his feelings towards the south's Peculiar Institution. The goal of the war may not of been to end slavery but those involved knew just how closely connected the two issues (secession and slavery) were. [/indent] Did Lincoln every make secret that his primary goal was the preservation of the Union? The major emphasis of the Emanicpation Proclamation was freedom for most slaves. Lincoln believed he did not have the power to free slaves in states that remained loyal (hence Delaware, Maryland, and others were exlcuded). Notice the phrasing: [/QUOTE]
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