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Historical Creationism: Literal Genesis, Old Earth

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Are you in the camp of believing that Atheists that accept God's common design aren't real Atheists?

By definition. Which isn't the case with the original point that was made. And hey, there's no requirement to capitalise 'atheists'. It would be like me capitalising 'fundamentalist'.
 
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By definition. Which isn't the case with the original point that was made. And hey, there's no requirement to capitalise 'atheists'. It would be like me capitalising 'fundamentalist'.
I did it for the sake of parallelism.
 
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Japanese mythology repeatedly affirms Amaterasu as the historical mother of all emperors, by whom Jimmu entered the world:

If Japanese mythology is repeatedly wrong about Amaterasu somehow being a mythical figure, including Naruhito's genealogy in wikipedia, how can we trust any (historical) claims that the Japanese people make about Naruhito, including His existence?
 
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The Japanese can talk about their myths all day long, but in the end, even they know it is "IN THE YEAR OF OUR LORD" 2021.
 
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The Japanese can talk about their myths all day long, but in the end, even they know it is "IN THE YEAR OF OUR LORD" 2021.

Reiwa (Japanese: 令和, pronounced [ɾeːɰa] ( listen) or [ɾeꜜːɰa][1])[2] is the current era of Japan's official calendar. It began on 1 May 2019, the day on which Emperor Akihito's elder son, Naruhito, ascended the throne as the 126th Emperor of Japan. The day before, Emperor Akihito abdicated the Chrysanthemum Throne, marking the end of the Heisei era.



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Value and denomination within wreath

Lettering:
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令 和 元 年

Translation:
10
First year of Reiwa
 
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The Japanese can talk about their myths all day long, but in the end, even they know it is "IN THE YEAR OF OUR LORD" 2021.
A telling example of cultural imperialism. Nothing to be proud of.
 
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The Japanese can talk about their myths all day long, but in the end, even they know it is "IN THE YEAR OF OUR LORD" 2021.
Wrong (as @essentialsaltes pointed out) and irrelevant. The argument being made is that Creationism must be true because the bible makes claims about genealogies. By the same logic Amaterasu must exist since we have a well documented genealogy for Japan's emperors.
 
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The Japanese can talk about their myths all day long, but in the end, even they know it is "IN THE YEAR OF OUR LORD" 2021.

They don't use the Western dating system.

As someone who taught English in Japan, let me tell you there are many, many Japanese who don't understand our dating system (and can't get it right on tests).
 
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They don't use the Western dating system.

As someone who taught English in Japan, let me tell you there are many, many Japanese who don't understand our dating system (and can't get it right on tests).
What year is it in Japan?
 
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If you google on 'fish-tetrapod transition' you will find about 433,000 results. One of the first ones that I found is an article by Jennifer A. Clack entitled 'The Fish-Tetrapod Transition: New Fossils and Interpretations'. This article gives a detailed explanation of the fossil evidence for the transition from fish to tetrapod between about 385 and 380 million years ago. Whether this transition was or was not the result only of natural selection acting on random mutations, the evidence for the occurrence of the transition is compelling; I recommend you to read the paper for yourself.
 
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Jewish commentaries traditionally upheld Adam's creation from dust, rather than evolution from an ape-like creature:


Jewish commentaries also traditionally upheld Adam as the historical father of all humankind:

 
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Jewish commentaries traditionally upheld Adam's creation from dust, rather than evolution from an ape-like creature:



Jewish commentaries also traditionally upheld Adam as the historical father of all humankind:
Japanese stories traditionally uphold Jimmu as being descended from the gods rather than just from mortal humans. They also uphold Jimmu as the first emperor.
 
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Jewish commentaries traditionally upheld Adam's creation from dust, rather than evolution from an ape-like creature:



Jewish commentaries also traditionally upheld Adam as the historical father of all humankind:

 
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If all humans living today are descended from one woman, Mitochondrial Eve, who lived 200,000 years ago, this can be reconciled with the Bible's genealogies if there were gaps in them. If Y-chromosomal Adam came after Mitochondrial Eve, he likely could have been Noah.
 
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What if you were redpilled into seeing that Darwinism's interpretation of the evidence is wrong? The evidence doesn't speak for itself, especially since no human was around to record what happened. The evidence must be interpreted by our presuppositions.
 
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Mitochondrial eve is merely the most recent woman we all share on the strict female line.

There is vastly too much genetic diversity to account for only two ancestors of the age with MT-eve.

It gets much worse if you also try to account for the diversity of the post flood world with only five distinct sources of genetic diversity. (If you can call antediluvians distinct given how inbred they would be in a literal reading of genesis).

It always amazes me that the words of a fictional revolutionary written by transgender science fiction film makers has been co-opted by those who propose a strict literal obedience to an ancient religious text.


If there are presuppositions of science, perhaps you can explain them?

Evidence isn't magic, it can be justified and described.
 
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She isn't a person from whom everyone is descended. In fact, she isn't a single person. She's the most recent common ancestor of everyone using the matrilineal line. As lines die out, the identity of the person representing that woman changes.

If we were all descended from her, then we'd also be descended from her mother. Annd then her mother before that. Etcetera etcetera.

Go wiki it for all the info you'll need.
 
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What if you were redpilled into seeing that Darwinism's interpretation of the evidence is wrong? The evidence doesn't speak for itself, especially since no human was around to record what happened.

Who recorded the six days of creation?
 
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