• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.

Hillary Clinton wants to deprogram MAGA?

Aug 29, 2005
34,371
11,479
✟206,635.00
Faith
Lutheran
Marital Status
Private

The idea that she 'revoked' he concession is absurd.

Hillary Clinton opens up about the moment she realized she lost​



"Clinton added that she believes in continuing to give Donald Trump “a chance to lead,” as she said in her concession speech, but that didn’t stop her from criticizing his performance thus far."

Why not? They tried in 2020 and I have no doubt they will try again.
 
Upvote 0

DaisyDay

I Did Nothing Wrong!! ~~Team Deep State
Jan 7, 2003
42,528
20,378
Finger Lakes
✟324,184.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Unitarian
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
It's deep seated?
That smells of a bad-faith, tricksy question. Yes, "it's" deep seated if by "it's" you meant "the phrase is". No, it's not deep seated if by "it's" you mean "tolerance for Antifa".

Well judging by those arrested....yes.
Seriously? You really know the political affiliation of those arrested? How?

There's lots of registered Democrats, children of Democrats, and I recall in one case of Antifa who assualted some marine veterans randomly on the street having direct ties to Democratic campaigns.
"Lots" of Democrats (I take it that you lump all Democrats into "the Left") - how many? Or, to gauge more accurately, what percentage of those arrested are Democrats or children of Democrats (which seems a stretch)?

Oh wow, one particular case, that should cinch it!

Here you go...

Well, the guy has ties! If that doesn't make the entire non-organization leftist, what ever could? It appears that after Alcoff was arrested for Antifa activities, they backed away from him and he lost his job. Is this your example of deep seated tolerance? From your FoxNews link just above:

Democrats are hardly eager to be associated with Alcoff now. Most spokespersons for Democratic members of Congress did not respond to inquiries from Fox News, or distanced themselves from Alcoff.

That sounds far more like the Proud Boys and other right-wing paramilitary organizations than it does Antifa.

So fascists use people to beat up political opponents and silence them.
I don't need to point out that Antifa does the same thing right?

Fascists are violent; Antifa is violent, therefore Antifa==fascists? Naw. As far as I can tell, Antifa does not "use people" to beat up political opponents and silence them, they themselves are the people on the ground who use violence to oppose other violent factions.

This is part of the problem with the extremist left. They read the label but don't look in the box.
Wait, are you saying that Antifa doesn't look in the box? Antifa is supposedly the "extremist left" that the mainstream left has a blind spot and tolerance for.

Antifa= left wing fascists.
No, Antifa is violent, no doubt, but they are not nationalistic, militaristic, authoritarian or leader-driven. Cute try at a reversal, but it doesn't work if you look in the box.


Inclusive = we want to racially exclude people. And so on...
Polemics.

Do MAGA extremists, as Bobert likes to label herself, Ultra MAGA, exist? I've seen people on this board deny it.

 
Reactions: GoldenBoy89
Upvote 0

RestoreTheJoy

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Jul 13, 2018
5,485
1,815
Passing Through
✟560,727.00
Country
United States
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
Again, I said her subsequent wording REFUTES her concession speech that she didn't believe, but felt compelled to make by tradition. You changed that word I used "refutes" to "revokes". I will speak for myself and you will not change my words to something I did not say, thanks.

Hillary Clinton's subsequent speech on multiple occasions about how the election was stolen from her and how Trump is an illegitimate President indeed speaks volumes.
 
Upvote 0

Pommer

CoPacEtiC SkEpTic
Sep 13, 2008
23,095
14,252
Earth
✟254,880.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Deist
Marital Status
In Relationship
Politics
US-Democrat
In what court did Hillary Clinton try to overturn the 2016 Presidential Election?
 
Upvote 0

RestoreTheJoy

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Jul 13, 2018
5,485
1,815
Passing Through
✟560,727.00
Country
United States
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
Your comment was that she did not concede. She did regardless of saying whatever she said later. She did not take back the concession.
She read a speech saying she conceded. Then she said she actually won and Trump was illegitimate. Put the pieces together.
 
Upvote 0

GoldenBoy89

We're Still Here
Sep 25, 2012
26,712
29,540
LA
✟660,397.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Humanist
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Democrat
She read a speech saying she conceded. Then she said she actually won and Trump was illegitimate. Put the pieces together.
That is far more to concede to her opponent than Trump has done since his electoral defeat.
 
Reactions: JustOneWay
Upvote 0

RestoreTheJoy

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Jul 13, 2018
5,485
1,815
Passing Through
✟560,727.00
Country
United States
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
Posted links three times, as I recall, to exact statements she made refuting her loss of the Presidency. You can scroll back up and find them. Not doing the work again.
 
Upvote 0

DaisyDay

I Did Nothing Wrong!! ~~Team Deep State
Jan 7, 2003
42,528
20,378
Finger Lakes
✟324,184.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Unitarian
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
Posted links three times, as I recall, to exact statements she made refuting her loss of the Presidency. You can scroll back up and find them. Not doing the work again.
Sure, you posted links but they don't say what you claim, that she refuted everything in her concession speech. Perhaps if you would show something from her speech, then the refutation?
 
Upvote 0

Pommer

CoPacEtiC SkEpTic
Sep 13, 2008
23,095
14,252
Earth
✟254,880.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Deist
Marital Status
In Relationship
Politics
US-Democrat
Posted links three times, as I recall, to exact statements she made refuting her loss of the Presidency. You can scroll back up and find them. Not doing the work again.
A six year-old “story” that no-one really cares about?
I wouldn’t either.
 
Upvote 0

RestoreTheJoy

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Jul 13, 2018
5,485
1,815
Passing Through
✟560,727.00
Country
United States
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
A six year-old “story” that no-one really cares about?
I wouldn’t either.
Someone cared enough in this post to refute the facts multiple times. I simply corrected the misunderstanding. Feel free to scroll back and look or move along to another post. Freedom.
 
Reactions: BPPLEE
Upvote 0

Pommer

CoPacEtiC SkEpTic
Sep 13, 2008
23,095
14,252
Earth
✟254,880.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Deist
Marital Status
In Relationship
Politics
US-Democrat
Someone cared enough in this post to refute the facts multiple times. I simply corrected the misunderstanding. Feel free to scroll back and look or move along to another post. Freedom.
Well, it seems important to you to defend your opinion, and that’s what forums is for, I guess, but Ms Clinton didn’t challenge Trump’s victory in any legal sense so you’re fighting for nothing.
 
Upvote 0

Ana the Ist

Aggressively serene!
Feb 21, 2012
39,990
12,573
✟487,130.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Married

There's a difference between "educated" and "re-education".
 
Reactions: Vambram
Upvote 0

RestoreTheJoy

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Jul 13, 2018
5,485
1,815
Passing Through
✟560,727.00
Country
United States
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
I never said the word "revoked". That's your erroneous addition. I used the word "refuted".
 
Reactions: BPPLEE
Upvote 0