rightversastyle said:
That GOD created and then had recorded what He did.
All the TE has is interpretation of evidence that may or may not be right.
God was there, HE knows how He did it.
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rightversastyle said:Its not personal at all.
I agree thats what the bible says. It just too bad those little statements refer to virtually nothing verifiable in the observable world, that God created mind you.
no games, just as I have already pointed out more than once--If you say sorry I offend, then keep doing it, it doesn't change anything. If I run over someone with my car and say sorry, then keep driving the way I have been, no changeYahwehLove said:See, now youre just playing games.
HOWmany times have i said ''sorry if anyone is offended, please bear with me''
I want people to point out when I offend them, but you act like I am the only one doing so.
Someone else jsut did it again in another thread. I wonder how fast youll be on them to be bit more respectful of others?
Its a big part of it.MLML said:I am curious, do you think faith might play a role in this?
You can do that, but I don't see any reason to conclude that it is a requirement.Meaning we don't need to have observed creation to verify it, but rather take it as faith as God said in Genesis?
No. That proclaimation doesn't make it more literal history then me saying "God says in the evidence of His creation, that stars are millions of light years away, thus God created a universe which is now very old".Something I find interesting is that so many easily dismiss the fact that Genesis 1-3 is covered in God says "...." Do you think the part that says God says deserves some extra attention and to take God at His Word?
Which comes down to.....belief that God guided the words of every chapter and verse of the bible, and His intent was that we read this all as literal history.YahwehLove said:right
That GOD created and then had recorded what He did.
All the TE has is interpretation of evidence that may or may not be right.
God was there, HE knows how He did it.
you don't have to wonder--I've explained it more than once. I have commented more on your posts because you are posting in a way that calls my beliefs fiction while yours are called fact (see above in your quote in this very post). I'm sorry that you can't see that as offensive--Im even sorrier that you don't care. I have not insulted your beliefs--not once, but I have only asked that you treat them as beliefs so that mine are not considered fiction. They are both beliefs, both opinions, neither fact. All I ask is respectYahwehLove said:Whats aggrivating is hes singling me out here.
Versytile or whatever has been fairly offensive a few times here and not once have I seen Herev say a word about it.
And I think they are taking that fact that I will NOT back down from the FACT that the bible says 6 days a little too personally.
Makes me wonder why that is, honestly.
honestly, the point is dead on.herev said:you're kidding right?
MLML said:I really do wonder what was the point of this post. You add in an apology only to follow it up with a sarcastic insult. Does this fall under the category of love your neighbor as yourself?
The advantage we have in forums is that we can do as Nehemiah did and step back and consult with oneself. Taking time to allow the emotion to subside and respond with love.
As one said, maybe you, an apology that is followed by sarcasm or acts that show no apologetic nature, are worthless.
I'm sorry but I would expect more from a moderator on a Christian forum.
I see.herev said:no games, just as I have already pointed out more than once--If you say sorry I offend, then keep doing it, it doesn't change anything. If I run over someone with my car and say sorry, then keep driving the way I have been, no change
and as I said repeatedly, I do not condone what some of my TE brothers say (some, in fact, I completely ignore until I have to get involved as a moderator--which since that is behind closed doors, you would never know about), but you seem to have no problem taking up for yourself.
It is because your posts are directed to him and his beliefs. Think about it.YahwehLove said:I see.
so you take them aside and talk yet make the issue public with YECers?
And reason for the difference?
And ignoring them, while drawing MAJOR attention to me, makes you look poorly both as a mod and as a brother.
Paul did not tolerate partiality.
versastyle said:Its a big part of it.
Maybe you can explain this more because what I get from what you have said here is faith isn't a requirement for reading Genesis, part of the Bible.versastyle said:You can do that, but I don't see any reason to conclude that it is a requirement.
Do you think the proclamation deserves more attention? Do think when the Bible says Jesus said, that we should really be listening? If you do, then why would it be any different when it says God says. Jesus is God after all. You cannot seperate the two.versastyle said:No. That proclaimation doesn't make it more literal history then me saying "God says in the evidence of His creation, that stars are millions of light years away, thus God created a universe which is now very old".
No. Education is a requirement to reading Genesis. Faith is a requirement in what you get out of what you are reading.MLML said:Maybe you can explain this more because what I get from what you have said here is faith isn't a requirement for reading Genesis, part of the Bible.
Jesus never said "I created the Earth in six historical days". In fact, we have very little information that He spent any time talking about the creation, if at all.Do you think the proclamation deserves more attention? Do think when the Bible says Jesus said, that we should really be listening? If you do, then why would it be any different when it says God says. Jesus is God after all. You cannot seperate the two.
I do. God did it.I couldn't answer the starlight question you have concerning yec, but I can assure you that God's ways are higher then ours and that He knows why He did what He did. We really do have the easiest part, just believe.
I would contend that neither of us are ready, and may never be.God knows one of us isn't ready for the meat.
Show me where I clearly stated that Herev was a weak or faithless Christain.versastyle said:It is because your posts are directed to him and his beliefs. Think about it.
It is clear(sound familiar) that you have said God has blessed you in your prayer and proper study that have led you to the spiritual truths and facts of the creation story. This is implying that anyone who disagrees with you isn't blessed as well and they what they believe is mythical or untrue.YahwehLove said:Show me where I clearly stated that Herev was a weak or faithless Christain.
It is also clear that you have implied that I am dogmatic with the words and dont pray.versastyle said:It is clear(sound familiar) that you have said God has blessed you in your prayer and proper study that have led you to the spiritual truths and facts of the creation story. This is implying that anyone who disagrees with you isn't blessed as well and they what they believe is mythical or untrue.
Opinions do not equal facts.
I think it might come down to that debating problem you were talking about.
MLML said:Personally, I see Yahwehlove speaking of what he/she believes and applying it himself/herself. (sorry i don't which) I think what many are trying to do is pick out something he/she has said and pick on it. I don't really see the point in this.
It would be much easier to just dismiss whatever you think he/she may have said inbetween the words. Many here rather just assume say you said this, rather then be polite and ask. I made this very same mistake with herev on another thread. What I read I still believe was an attack, but he said it wasn't, so I must believe him, if I am to follow what Christ said. But I would ask that we all try to pick words that are less abrassive and if one finds something to be rude, rather then assume it ask the person if that was meant.
Not trying to be rude, but this made me laugh. I do think you are dogmatic, but the extent of your prayer and the results of it have been your business. Its good that way, and scripturally it is recommend.YahwehLove said:It is also clear that you have implied that I am dogmatic with the words and dont pray.
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