Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.
I have three points for people with doubts, read thoroughly, I hope they be the reason to guide you:
"We will show them Our signs in the horizons and within themselves until it becomes clear to them that it is the truth. But is it not sufficient concerning your Lord that He is, over all things, a Witness?" (41:53)
"O People, if you should be in doubt about the Resurrection, then [consider that] indeed, We created you from dust, then from a sperm-drop, then from a clinging clot, and then from a lump of flesh, formed and unformed - that We may show you. And We settle in the wombs whom We will for a specified term, then We bring you out as a child, and then [We develop you] that you may reach your [time of] maturity. And among you is he who is taken in [early] death, and among you is he who is returned to the most decrepit [old] age so that he knows, after [once having] knowledge, nothing. And you see the earth barren, but when We send down upon it rain, it quivers and swells and grows [something] of every beautiful kind." (22:5)
"Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of creation), before we clove them asunder? We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?" (21:30)
"I will turn away from My signs those who are arrogant upon the earth without right; and if they should see every sign, they will not believe in it. And if they see the way of consciousness, they will not adopt it as a way; but if they see the way of error, they will adopt it as a way. That is because they have denied Our signs and they were heedless of them."
(7:146)
Dawkins admits to the design observed in nature.
"“biology is the study of complicated things that appear to have been designed for a purpose.”
The Blind Watchmaker, 1996, p. 1.
Dawkins illustrates the point that a sufficiently talented “story teller” can spin a story to convince himself to ignore the observations in nature even though he can see complicated biological systems that appear to have been designed for a purpose.
Saying that there is the appearance of design does not mean it WAS design.
-_- you should obviously know that "appear to have been designed" is not the same as saying something was designed. .
Don't miss that last sentence -- "Dawkins illustrates the point that a sufficiently talented “story teller” can spin a story to convince himself to ignore the observations in nature even though he can see complicated biological systems that appear to have been designed for a purpose."
And "yet" DNA segment activation, -transcription-and-translation, error correction -- still beyond your "chemistry set"??
But of course --- "not designed -- even though it is apparently designed when you observe it"
And in this case - it is purely biochemistry -- no evolution of the molecule needs a million years for the chemical reaction to happen.
Don't miss that last sentence -- "Dawkins illustrates the point that a sufficiently talented “story teller” can spin a story to convince himself to ignore the observations in nature even though he can see complicated biological systems that appear to have been designed for a purpose."
Why should I expect them too, they are separate species..... You just proved my point not even realizing it.
Looking at the title of this thread - and the OP -- it is easy to understand why it is that atheist settle for ignoring the entire subject - and confine themselves to 'repeating false accusations' accompanied by "no evidence whatsoever" other than the "repeat of the accusation".
How sad.
Even more sad is that some feel this is their justification for choosing what the Bible calls 'the lake of fire' for themselves and those family members "influenced" by them.
I myself would rather see them choosing life - over the Rev 20 "alternative"
But none of them identified a single substantive flaw in any post of mine.
Were we simply supposed to "imagine it" for you??
Please be serious.
We have evidence that chimps and humans share a common ancestor, such as shared genetic markers and transitional fossils.
The flaw is that one comment by one scientist does not make the evidence go away.
Sure you do.
Hello, Paul. Nice to hear from you. I am deeply interested in mysticism. However, I was largely inspired by the panpsychism or two major contemporary philosophers, Alfred North Whitehead and Charles Hartshorne. I don't follow you when you contrast the mystical with the dynamic. Could you explain, please?
The flaws of...?Yes but many flaws in ToE do.
Each of Bob's quote mines have been extensively discussed and addressed previously so I'd like to ignore them but I have to wonder what the point of them is anyway?
a) I haven't bothered checking them but aren't all the people quoted professional scientists and fully accept evolution?
b) Why is Bob prepared to accept one or two sentences they say which support his point,yet reject the other 99.999% of their work which disagrees with his 'opinion'?
c) Does one comment (even if it were shown to be in context) negate actual evidence. Opinions are not facts.
Each of Bob's quote
quotes have been extensively discussed and addressed previously so I'd like to ignore them
but I have to wonder what the point of them is anyway?
a) I haven't bothered checking them but aren't all the people quoted professional scientists and fully accept evolution?
The whole point behind a quote mine is that the person doing the mining has abandoned precepts of honesty, integrity, and accuracy, and instead is merely going for the appearance of honesty, integrity, and accuracy. .
O come on, please...The flaws of...?
Just saying they exist doesn't do much. Anyone can make empty claims about anything.
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?