helping others by getting vaccine

I'm a zealot and do believe in the literal promises of Psalm 91. Peace, love and kindness with the peace of Jesus Christ to all.

Alas, my reason for getting vaccinated was self preservation.

Jesus is my Superhero said:

Association of American Physicians and Surgeons: COVID Shots Risk Millions of Lives

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So, we agree, then, that a medical authority can be wrong, right?

mama2one said:

if you want to take the opinion of above small organization over all the medical Drs, pharmacists, and nurses throughout the world who are giving the vaccines, so be it

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I got vaccinated, but not because of how many doctors are for it, versus how many against it. Numbers, alone, do not decide what God knows is right.

So, whether a group is big or small is not an objective measure of what is right, in this case, I would say.

You talk about doctors around the world. Well, not all people are getting the same vaccine. And in some countries, for all we know, their product could be more or less different than ones more mainstream in the United States - - different by being either better or worse, for all > I < would know, anyway.

It seems mainstream, by the way, that ones vaccinated can get the Delta variant and then can spread it. And so, ones are encouraged to take precautions, even if we have been vaccinated.

So, we need to be careful, if there is anything to this, not to put too much hope in vaccines. Or else, among other possibilities, we could feel safer than we really are and be less careful than we should be. And > considering caring about others as ourselves, we need to try to be safe for other people, not only for ourselves and our own loved ones.

Hi Bèlla - you said:

Emphasizing the consequences of non vaccination while ignoring your brother wolfing down his second burger isn’t evenhanded. There’s a lot of things people turn a blind eye to while touting one cause over the other.

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OH-h-h-h . . . no need for any of us to get self-righteous about whichever idea we hold to > I think there are ones anti-vax who are self-righteous, while pro-vax people can likewise be infected with self-righteousness which could be more pandemic than the COVID.

And self-righteousness is anti-love. So, this infection might hurt people more deeply than any SARS-CoV-2 guy or vax reaction.

And yes there can be a virus in us, messing with our attention system . . . so we are selectively awarding our attention, and maybe not noticing what matters more.

What about smoking, then, and how the dangerous example of this is helping young people to get hooked on nicotine and then waste so much money on cigarettes and maybe suffer in cancer which also has their loved ones and friends lives ruined with worry and fear and torment?

And ones can say they are so about lives being saved from COVID-19; yet, they are fine with killing unborn people in the millions.

And yes, as maybe you mean, Bèlla . . . ones who are more hurt by COVID-19 include ones who have abused themselves with food for a long time. A number of the ones in more danger of COVID are ones who have not taken care of themselves right. Some number have abused themselves for decades, even all but right in the faces of their doctors . . . and in the faces of ones who love them and care about them. And then the caring ones are subjected to suffering and time demands when the abusers are older and breaking down, even more. While they were younger, it was nobody else's "business". But now . . . .

So, now the control comes. Even so, we can do what we can to help. And if we get into judging who is deserving of sacrifice and help . . . who is on this list????? lolololololololol

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com7fy8 said:

oops . . . please check back > I posted before putting in my comments

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No worries. It happens.

~bella

mama2one said:

only the reported deaths:

4,227,359 deaths, reported to WHO



surprisingly, many don't care about deaths of humans & thus refusal to help stop virus by getting vaccine

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In my eyes WHO is as believable as the CCP.

mama2one said:

do you think they are lying about the number if reported deaths?

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It has already been established here in the U.S. that many of the deaths listed are erroneously tabulated as covid (originating in Wuhan, China), deaths. So why not extrapolate this throughout the world?

Truth is a rare commodity in this world.

mama2one said:

again, medical Drs, pharmacists, and nurses are giving the vaccines

most do not work for gov't

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At this point, it seems, we all work for the gov't. We have become subjects of the royalty, not their bosses.

But in the end, political correctness rules the day. The doctors and nurses are not likely to publicly take a stand that will ruin their careers. Don't pretend that honesty is the current method of gov't.

bèlla said:

If we’re going to use scripture to encourage right behavior we should be consistent. Emphasizing the consequences of non vaccination while ignoring your brother wolfing down his second burger isn’t evenhanded. There’s a lot of things people turn a blind eye to while touting one cause over the other.

~bella

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I was just thinking how much I would love to see this much concern for others’ safety applied to navigating the roadways. Can you imagine the decrease in traffic accidents as a result?

That said, while I did get the vaccine, even if I hadn’t gotten it I never felt the need to pressure others around me to be vaccinated to protect folks like me, and I could very well be immunocompromised and not know it because I only go to the doctor if I feel there's something tangibly wrong with my body (so, only if I'm on my death-bed). The selflessness that’s usually tacked onto being vaccinated was used in my own approach; I wasn’t about to make others feel pressured to put something in their body they’re unsure of just to make me feel safer. That would make me feel selfish, ironically enough. As the saying goes, you don't need to set yourself on fire just to keep me warm.

Meanwhile, I encourage the selfless saints to consider applying their pandemic-induced virtue to their driving habits (if they haven’t done so already, of course).

mama2one said:

47 Bible Verses About Helping Others: 7 Scriptural Themes for Generosity


^ 1. CARING FOR THE WEAK

Matthew 10:8: “Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy, drive out demons. Freely you have received; freely give.”


there are immunocompromised individuals who can't get the vaccine & children are not able to get vaccine yet

we ALL can get vaccinated to care for the weak & save lives

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Hi you argument is an emotional appeal based on a unproven conclusion that the vaccines are safe and that there is no other safe alternative treatment for covid. The debate should be open and not a Orwellian ad campaign of fear, intimidation and bribery to get you vaxed. How come Dr Fauci and WHO CDC officials won't sit down and have a scientific debate with Dr Simone Gold who heads a group called front line doctors who can prove that treatment already exists for covid that is safe and cost effective and these doctors have faced persecution for taking a stand against this official narrative?

There are so many areas that should be openly debated before you make conclusions and try to mandate the whole world with a policy. You know they are using this to institute the global great reset and change the entire world order. The WEF is openly promoting this agenda with the most comprehensive interactive plan which is completely in line with the UN directives. Most of the Western leaders are on record as supporting these objectives and if you do no know what the Great Reset is you should look it up. This post really should be moved to the Eschatology section because current events are shaping the the world for the tribulation in real time. As they said in Ben Hur Ramming Speed...
We are racing to the days long warned would come and this is a trojan horse of deception.

I go to Calvary chapel San Jose. We are now facing fines of close to 4 million dollars for defying the shut down orders and meeting in person with no masks, no sanitizer, no distancing, and singing and hugging and doing just as before. Now this has been over a year and we did not see the dire consequences of covid ravaging our congregation or become a super spreader. John Macarthur, Rob McCoy, Tom Hughes, Barry Stagner, and many others with large churches also stayed open and none of them had major outbreaks or were linked to being super spreaders. Either we are given divine protection of the mandates and all are not necessary.

Rajni said:

I was just thinking how much I would love to see this much concern for others’ safety applied to navigating the roadways. Can you imagine the decrease in traffic accidents as a result?

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We could solve a lot of problems if they maintained their enthusiasm. But it will never happen. People pick and choose their projects and pretend they're doing otherwise.

That said, while I did get the vaccine, even if I hadn’t gotten it I never felt the need to pressure others around me to be vaccinated

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It's interesting to watch in an odd kind of way. The message veers from guilt trips, to used car salesmen, to fanatic, and burgeoning cult leader. I'm astounded in all honesty.

Meanwhile, I encourage the selfless saints to consider applying their pandemic-induced virtue to their driving habits (if they haven’t done so already, of course).

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I didn't believe it could get worse after politics. But I was wrong.

Great to see you. I hope you're well!

~bella

Jesus is my Superhero said:

It has already been established here in the U.S. that many of the deaths listed are erroneously tabulated as covid (originating in Wuhan, China), deaths. So why not extrapolate this throughout the world?

Truth is a rare commodity in this world.

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Not only were the US guidance directives tainted —i.e. report as Covid if it is only suspected— but reward money given per case reported, in many instances. When has the lure of money for lying suddenly become the motive for truth? In 2019 there were 38 million cases of flu, but somehow in 2020 only 18 thousand? Really?

On top of that, it has been repeatedly admitted that the tests were faulty, even if the administrators were honest on the test outcomes.

Then there's the comorbidities —don't get me started on that!

mama2one said:

only drive about 10 miles/wk or less now
car insurance sent me money!

staying away from people who refuse the vaccine
don't want the "out for me only" attitude to rub off on me

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Very sad way to live. Many have been scared into living normally by misinformation and lack of trust in God.

Lost4words said:

Very sad way to live. Many have been scared into living normally by misinformation and lack of trust in God.

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Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever. God has kept, healed, and delivered me. I won't live in fear.

~bella