Help...new to Charismatic

[changedforlife31]

OK I am new to the idea of Charismatic, God has been leading me towards it, but I have questions...
1. How does one become "baptized in the Holy Spirit"?
2. What is the definition of Charismatic?

And recently, I have become more and more aware of my gift of discernment, most recently I was looking into the eyes of one of my students (I work with a youth ministry) and I think I could see the demon that has been afflicting her. Is this odd, or am I nuts, or is this true. Please help!

 

[NJA]

The baptism in the Spirit is how God makes you a member of His church (1 Cor. 12v13), it is not a "second blessing" subsequent to being born again as men have said, it *is* being born again, until you have it you cannot understand the kingdom of God.

Jesus & the apostles never discerned demons by looking in people's eyes, they did it by preaching the (true) gospel of authority with God then seeing the response of people. Demons resulted in adverse physical / mental reactions.

changed - you need to receive this:-
Ac:2:4: And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
(v33, 39, 10v44-48)
Try this church:-
http://www.revivalusa.org

 

[abigail.mcintyre]

This is not official doctrine. Just my experience. Use your new gift to test it.

Sometimes God teaches us and imparts to us directly Himself:
You can receive baptism in the Holy Spirit if you have the desire for it and you pray for it. Simply cry out to God and ask Him to baptize you with His Holy Spirit. You do not need man to help you. God can do it without man ... but

Sometimes it is God's will that a servant of God lay hands on us and pray for us to receive baptism in the Holy Spirit. This happens more often when you have access to a congregation of believers, who can help you understand more about the gifts that God gives, and help you grow to maturity.

Discernment of spirits is a gift of the Holy Spirit that would indicate baptism in the Holy Spirit has already occurred. It is usually given to servants called to healing and deliverance ministry. God equips us for the work He gives us.

Just as God creates us uniquely, he gifts us uniquely too. No two people have exactly the same way of discerning spirits. But there are some commonalities.

Abi.

 

[changedforlife31]

Thanks Abi and NJA, here's another question... I keep hearing about deliverance, what is that?

 

[enoch son]

The above post's a burk and not word base but are pull out of the word. It is a second experience see Acts 8-14-17. it was nothing to do with the gifts of the spirit listed in 1 Cor.

 

[changedforlife31]

The above post's a burk and not word base but are pull out of the word. It is a second experience see Acts 8-14-17. it was nothing to do with the gifts of the spirit listed in 1 Cor.

I don't quite understand what you mean by burk?

 

[Bizzlebin Imperatoris]

You recieve the Spirit upon water baptism as states in Acts 2:38. Baptism by the Spirit was sometimes used to mean baptism for those that were baptised by John (water) but that did not recieve the Spirit.

 

[changedforlife31]

The baptism in the Spirit is how God makes you a member of His church (1 Cor. 12v13), it is not a "second blessing" subsequent to being born again as men have said, it *is* being born again, until you have it you cannot understand the kingdom of God.

Jesus & the apostles never discerned demons by looking in people's eyes, they did it by preaching the (true) gospel of authority with God then seeing the response of people. Demons resulted in adverse physical / mental reactions.



I should not have said, could see it, but I could tell there was something not of God at work.

 

[enoch son]

You recieve the Spirit upon water baptism as states in Acts 2:38. Baptism by the Spirit was sometimes used to mean baptism for those that were baptised by John (water) but that did not recieve the Spirit.

Oh really? Where the firer as state by John in the water baptism? Your doctrine understanding is in error.

 

[Bizzlebin Imperatoris]

Oh really? Where the firer as state by John in the water baptism? Your doctrine understanding is in error.

There is even record of this in the Bible. It is in Acts

 

[enoch son]

Chapter ver.

 

[Bizzlebin Imperatoris]

Acts 19:

3So Paul asked, "Then what baptism did you receive?"
"John's baptism," they replied.
4Paul said, "John's baptism was a baptism of repentance. He told the people to believe in the one coming after him, that is, in Jesus." 5On hearing this, they were baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus.

So, before the Spirit was "released" so to say, they were two seperate events, after that however, as Peter clearly stated, they come at the same time.

 

[enoch son]

Chap and ver on that last sentence please

 

[Bizzlebin Imperatoris]

Look at Jesus' teachings on the Spirit, and notice it was sent down at Pentecost. Also, Acts 2:38 is where Peter states that. If you want the specific references, let me know, I am sure you can find them.

 

[changedforlife31]

Thanks Abi and NJA, here's another question... I keep hearing about deliverance, what is that?

I could still use some help on what exactly Charismatic means, and what deliverance is. Thanks

 

[Bizzlebin Imperatoris]

Charismatic I think is just some other denomination term. Not really important to know, just learn scriptural truth. Deliverance could mean salvation, sheilding from tempation, etc. Depends on the context.

 

[enoch son]

So you are saying that Peter preached that God changed is way's and now made the two event that happean to Peter into one event? I do not see your point from that ver. Peter is making a statement on the second event. In Act's 10-44-48 it seem to me that God does not think the same as your doctrine.

 

[Bizzlebin Imperatoris]

Acts 10:

44While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit came on all who heard the message. 45The circumcised believers who had come with Peter were astonished that the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out even on the Gentiles. 46For they heard them speaking in tongues and praising God.
47Then Peter said, "Can anyone keep these people from being baptized with water? They have received the Holy Spirit just as we have." 48So he ordered that they be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they asked Peter to stay with them for a few days

Only Jews had been Christian up to this time. This outpouring was like Pentecost, except to Gentiles. It showed Peter that God had accepted anyone into his kingdom, regardless of race.

 

[NJA]

changed - deliverance is being moved/changed from one situation to another. The word "salvation" mans deliverance !

In the OT they were delivered from oppressors and oppressive situations, in the NT we are delivered from an existance separate from God, being "in the flesh", to a Life where God dwells within. making you "free indeed", no demons lurking in dark corners, you are given a spotless robe, you become a temple of God, part of Christ's body. Here's how:-
"Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing (i.e. baptism) of regeneration (new birth), and renewing of the Holy Ghost; Which he shed on us abundantly (i.e. not by measure / in part) through Jesus Christ our Saviour (Titus 3v5-6)

That "shedding upon" began at Pentecost:-
Ac:2:33: Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath *shed forth* this, which ye now see and hear.

. . .and continues the SAME today !
Jude:1:3: Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the *common salvation*, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for *the faith which was once delivered* unto the saints.

that faith comes with the ability to "pray in the Holy Ghost" (read Jude 20-21).

 

[changedforlife31]

Thank you, so much! I felt a little like my question was getting lost in all the hub bub.