Help Me Understand

[Verticordious]

"It's my body I can do what I want with it" even if that means killing a baby, but ordering a 17 oz soda won't be tolerated? I would agree that obesity is a problem in America, but I just can't figure out what twisted logic liberals are using to justify banning large sodas (which are actually only around 8oz with ice) while still allowing abortion. Any liberals out there brave enough to try and explain this one to us?

Abort a Baby, Pro-Choice; Drink a Slurpee, No Choice - Michael Brown - Townhall Conservative Columnists - Page 1

 

[keith99]

But it is A OK if I get a 64 oz Margarita!

Got to love New York.

 

[Illuminaughty]

"It's my body I can do what I want with it" even if that means killing a baby, but ordering a 17 oz soda won't be tolerated? I would agree that obesity is a problem in America, but I just can't figure out what twisted logic liberals are using to justify banning large sodas (which are actually only around 8oz with ice) while still allowing abortion. Any liberals out there brave enough to try and explain this one to us?

I don't see the outlawing of large sodas as a major cause among liberals. Wasn't mayor Bloomberg a Republican before he became an independent anyway? I've never seen him as being particularly liberal and he is generally credited with being a "moderate".

Banning sodas is about as stupid as drug prohibition. Why people even consider such things as being remotely constitutional is beyond me.

 

[Vylo]

Well, first off, no one supports killing babies that I have ever heard of.

As for the sodas, it is the liberals with blind ideology and little common sense that support this. These are the same college kids who rally for the environment, without even knowing what they are talking about. Tell them that it was old school conservatives that started the environmental movement, and they will scream at you.

 

[Harpuia]

This is one of those that leaves anyone with a brain scratching their heads to be honest...

 

[WilliamB]

"It's my body I can do what I want with it" even if that means killing a baby, but ordering a 17 oz soda won't be tolerated? I would agree that obesity is a problem in America, but I just can't figure out what twisted logic liberals are using to justify banning large sodas (which are actually only around 8oz with ice) while still allowing abortion. Any liberals out there brave enough to try and explain this one to us?

Abort a Baby, Pro-Choice; Drink a Slurpee, No Choice - Michael Brown - Townhall Conservative Columnists - Page 1

Obesity is one of the number one contributors to high healthcare costs. I believe only smoking tops obesity. You can't fix a state nor a country if you don't reduce healthcare costs. Relating this to abortion? I guess you can make the comparison if you're a pro-lifer, however abortions dont drive up healthcare costs so, it's a stretch at best. Also, isn't gluttony mentioned somewhere as being a no, no? There should be overwhelming support for this here, I would think.

 

[Desk trauma]

"It's my body I can do what I want with it" even if that means killing a baby, but ordering a 17 oz soda won't be tolerated? I would agree that obesity is a problem in America, but I just can't figure out what twisted logic liberals...

And there is was where you lost me, Mayor Bloomberg is one man and last I checked is not the spokesperson for any major pro-choice group or liberals in general.

 

[RedDead1981]

Liberals are not a hive mind.

 

[Rion]

Well, first off, no one supports killing babies that I have ever heard of.

You've obviously not met enough radical environmentalists.

 

[Paradoxum]

I don't particularly care about this, but doesn't unhealthy eating make health costs go up?

 

[HerbieHeadley]

I don't particularly care about this, but doesn't unhealthy eating make health costs go up?

Uh huh...

Big Brother Pizza Order - YouTube

 

[1776]

Well, first off, no one supports killing babies that I have ever heard of.

Everyone who supports abortion supports the killing of babies. Technically, a baby within the womb is called a fetus, but it is still a baby within the womb anyway you look at it. Unless, of course, you don't consider an unborn baby to be a human until it reaches a certain point of its life?

 

[Paradoxum]

Uh huh...

Not that what I said is the same as the video.

Big Brother Pizza Order - YouTube

Nevertheless I'm not really that freaked out by it, though I would say it was unwise.

 

[RedDead1981]

Everyone who supports abortion supports the killing of babies. Technically, a baby within the womb is called a fetus, but it is still a baby within the womb anyway you look at it. Unless, of course, you don't consider an unborn baby to be a human until it reaches a certain point of its life?

I think that's usually the big difference between pro-choice and pro-life. Despite propaganda to the contrary, nobody likes or wants to kill babies.

 

[USincognito]

Forget abortion, the two situations are not analagous.

It will, if Bloomberg has his way, you can't get into more trouble having a large sugary drink than you can having a joint or two.

 

[citizenthom]

Obesity is one of the number one contributors to high healthcare costs.

...for the unhealthy individual. Not for anyone else.

And then you'll say, "but but but HEALTH INSURANCE!" And then I'll ask, who is forcing you to buy health insurance and be in the unhealthy people's risk pool at all?

And when you stare at me in silence I'll remind you that it's the same bloody social liberals who want unhealthy foods banned.

A perfect circle of socialism: invasive control of your life in one area justifies it in a plethora of others.

 

[1776]

Forget abortion, the two situations are not analagous.

Baby murder and abortion are not? I beg your pardon!

If you were driving in America and accidently hit a pregnant woman and killed both her and her unborn baby, you are not just charged with the manslaughter (or whatever charge of killing you get) of one person. You are charged with both. Abortion is the intentional killing of a human life. Intentional killing, when not as an act of self defence, is called murder.

"Pro choice" people have to play word games just to get around the fact that an innocent life is being murdered. Like it or not, unborn babies are living humans who are murdered when they are aborted.

 

[Desk trauma]

"Pro choice" people have to play word games just to get around the fact that an innocent life is being murdered. Like it or not, unborn babies are living humans who are murdered when they are aborted.

You do not get to complain about word games while playing one your self for emotional effect. Murder is a legal term, which you are not using correctly. A homicide must be illegal for it to be murder, even if abortion was classed as homicide under the law the practice remains legal making it not fit the legal definition of the term.

 

[1776]

You do not get to complain about word games while playing one your self for emotional effect. Murder is a legal term, which you are not using correctly. A homicide must be illegal for it to be murder, even if abortion was classed as homicide under the law the practice remains legal making it not fit the legal definition of the term.

I'm speaking both colloquially (the average person does not look up political definitions for everything) and Biblically. I'm not a citizen of the United States of American and have never lived there. I don't know all of the definitions of legal terms there, so please don't play that "legal definition" game with me.

This is a Christian website. Why would I care about the American definition of it? I care about what God says. Murder is the intentional killing of a human life outside of self defence (or justice). Please respect that this is a Christian website and that we do not need to use a limited political definition of murder, when we have a God-given one.

Abortion is the unintentional killing an innocent human life. That is murder.

 

[Desk trauma]

I'm speaking both colloquially (the average person does not look up political definitions for everything) and Biblically. I'm not a citizen of the United States of American and have never lived there. I don't know all of the definitions of legal terms there, so please don't play that "legal definition" game with me.

This is rather an odd thing to say after you last post going into detail about the legal status of killing a fetus along with the woman it is inside of.

This is a Christian website. Why would I care about the American definition of it?

Because the issue being discussed is within the US and if you did not care about american law why the discussion of the legal status of killing a fetus via vehicular manslaughter in the last post? If US law is irrelevant to you why did you bring it into the discussion?