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So how many generations is that from Adam?Genesis 4:22 And Zillah, she also bare Tubalcain, an instructer of every artificer in brass and iron: and the sister of Tubalcain was Naamah.
(Almost as if God knew this "controversy" ahead of time, isn't it?)
Six, if I added correctly ... why?So how many generations is that from Adam?
Just trying to figure out when the Bible says we had iron. From this passage it looks like the iron age began around 3,000 BC. Like I said, I question if you have a good plow without iron. So even though they used iron for weapons to protect their land. They also used iron to produce food to feed people and this could cause an increase in population over the pre iron age. Today we see this with the farm tractor. We can produce a lot more food and our world population has increased because of this. An acre is the amount of land one man can plow with one farm animal on one day. Yet today 5,000 acre farms are fairly common.Six, if I added correctly ... why?
I am pretty sure the mines you will find are tin. Esp in southern England are some ancient tin mines. Zinc came a little bit later on in time. Of course this was important for making the best weapons. The iron age came along soon enough. This could be important for farming also. I can not imagine they could get much plowing done with stone tools. Although I am sure they tried.
Wikipedia said:Brass is an alloy of copper and zinc; the proportions of zinc and copper can be varied to create a range of brasses with varying properties.
In comparison, bronze is principally an alloy of copper and tin. Bronze does not necessarily contain tin, and a variety of alloys of copper, including alloys with arsenic, phosphorus, aluminium, manganese, and silicon, are commonly termed "bronze". The term is applied to a variety of brasses and the distinction is largely historical.
Are you saying they could beat their [iron] plowshares into swords, if they had to?Like I said, I question if you have a good plow without iron.
Really?However, what was used during the "bronze age", was primarily a copper and tin alloy. Which would make KJV wrong calling it brass.
Really?
I'll go with both being right.
It was the Bronze Age, but the Israelites used brass for their farm equipment/weapons of war.
(Probably they were laughed at by the ... higher educated for doing this, until the ... higher educated got a wake-up call.)
Well then, perhaps that's where the iron came in?Brass is too soft for weapons.. unless you are going against unarmored opponents with no shields. I thought the Canaanites were "elite mountain warriors?" Surely, they had armor.
Brass is harder than copper and better then a stone tool. I can not find any copper knives although a lot of people are looking for them. Stone age tools were ok. Often they were made out of flint or even volcanic glass. It all comes down to who has the best weapons and who has the best tools.Brass is too soft for weapons..
Well then, perhaps that's where the iron came in?
I don't know ... I wasn't there.
http://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionaries/eastons-bible-dictionary/brass.html said:Brass, which is an alloy of copper and zinc, was not known till the thirteenth century. What is designated by this word in Scripture is properly copper.
Everything about what you said is wrong, we did not "evolve from a monkey" or any other type of primate, we share a common ancestor with an ape about 6 million years ago.
Saying that humans evolved from monkeys is the same as saying that you evolved from your cousin, when in reality, what happened was that you and your cousin shared a common ancestor three generations ago.
Actually, you have to look at the term "monkey" in context. Creationists are always asking, "why aren't monkeys evolving into humans today?" In that context, no, we didn't evolve from (modern) monkeys.
Hey, if one's interpretation of God's word, and God's actual creation, don't align, guess which one is wrong - after all, isn't man's wisdom foolishness before God?Indeed ... to make science and the Bible mesh, many people allegorize the Bible; and Noah's Flood gets plutoed.
Brass is harder than copper and better then a stone tool. I can not find any copper knives although a lot of people are looking for them. Stone age tools were ok. Often they were made out of flint or even volcanic glass. It all comes down to who has the best weapons and who has the best tools.
You betchum!Hey, if one's interpretation of God's word, and God's actual creation, don't align, guess which one is wrong - after all, isn't man's wisdom foolishness before God?
It's a good deal more helpful than comments like the above.Useless talk. What you said does not help her.
Neither do you.Not blaming you. You are not a teacher. You do not know how to teach.
Which is relevant to the present discussion how?I do teach 101 course. In that class, I use a different language to explain geology (I do correct them when they called a rock as stone), which is dramatically different from what I used in a 501 course.
You quote a post in which I remind you how difficult it is to know the exact species, then you ask what this species was.By the way, what is the species (of monkey) which evolved into human? Those names are impossible to remember. That should be the answer for the OP.
I only understood that to mean that we shouldn't stud our replies with jargon. Which is a pretty fair request.You can stop right there. It is impossible to debunk what you refuse to understand.
You're doing the "good ol' boy" routine. It's a little show people put on to denigrate those they disagree with but they have no better arguments of explanations by mocking those who actually have a better understanding of a subject. It's played by people to appeal to those of little understanding, training, or education but it's used plenty by those who want to appear as "good ol' boys" who make fun of those with their "fancy schamncy" degree from those "fancy, city colleges." AV does it all the time when he condescendingly and arrogantly acts superior and mocks those who know more on the subject by using little irony-ladden phrases such as "learned men" or "wise men."
So, instead of telling people to learn more on the subject, you immediately put down those who use words differently in an academic context to make them appear arrogant or out of the touch with the "common folk," "common sense," or even reality, as you perceive it.
It's a good deal more helpful than comments like the above.
Neither do you.
Which is relevant to the present discussion how?
You quote a post in which I remind you how difficult it is to know the exact species, then you ask what this species was.
I only understood that to mean that we shouldn't stud our replies with jargon. Which is a pretty fair request.
Whatever you said to others will affect YOU the most. So, if you are wise, say the truth, or say it with honor. You do that for your own benefit.
Yes, this is another good answer to the OP.
Evolutionist has many ways to trick those who do not know science well.
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