Help For My Mom Please

[BeccaLynn]

Hello everyone. I'm starting this thread because I'm requesting encouragement for my mom. Around the age of 10 is when she began having seemingly blasphemous thoughts. She was suicidal, probably in her late teens and early 20s, because of it. God delivered her in her early 20s, but she's struggled with depression ever since. She has helped me so much and has always encouraged and uplifted me since she understands what I've gone and am going through. Now however, she is back again to having those thoughts. Those horrid ocd thoughts that tie and bind you so badly that you think dying would be better than living like this. She's convinced, again, that she has blasphemed God and is unforgiveable. I'm requesting that those who have gone through the same thing, those who have seen God's hand at work in their lives through it all, offer encouragement to her. I've talked to her about this website, and she has looked at it, but she needs people who've been where she is right now to speak hope to her. She loves God with all of her heart. In fact, I would love to have such a fervent heart for God as she does. I know I've been ecouraged and helped so much by so many people here and I'm asking for your help for my mom. Thank you in advance.

Rebecca

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[babegirl111]

Beccalynn my mom dealt with OCD sort of like ours too. I will of course pray for her. I am sorry the OCD has crept up on her again. I pray she will do better. GOD BLESS!

 

[Timeo]

I got OCD myself and thought about blasphemy is one of the things I have been struggling with. I think every christian some time in life gets thoughts like this, but the difference with them and those that got OCD, is that they get the thought, shake it away and really don't think much more about it. Someone with OCD will instead focus very deeply on these thoughts and strongly deny them and use lots of mental energy on preventing these thoughts from coming back. The tricky part is that when someone says something like "I shall not imagine a butterfly", then what is the first thing that comes into the mind? This is because of focusing on a thought and the same time trying to not think it. This makes no sense. How could you not think about a thought you alreday think about? It does not help to think of the butterly eigther. The only thing that helps is to not think that you should not think something. If someone do not think they should not think about a butterfly, then maybe the butterfly will pass trough the mind, but it will not stay there as a annoyance. So It is my experience that when i stop using energy on trying to prevent thoughts, then the thoughts get more free and i can think on things i prefer to think about instead.

Everyone has thoughts about all sorts of things, and none of them are a sin unless you for example really want to be blasphemous. If someone really hate God and talks or thinks bad things about him, then it is blasphemy. If someone do not care about christianity at all, and do not have any worries about eternety and talk blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, then they might have done a unforgivable sin. But there is difference in things going trough the mind and actually doing the sinfull act. If i say it is a sin to steal, the maybe you will start thinking about stealing, but this does not mean you are a thief. The difference is when you actually start planning theft, then this thought might turn into action, and therefore it is wrong to think this.

But again, it is just part of how the mind works, even to think about blasphmey. If you could not think about what it is to committ blashpemy, the mind would stop working like it should. If you can not think about what it is to commit sin against the holy spirit, then how can you know what it is, and how to not do it? If we can not think about wrong things, then how can we know what is wrong at all? The job the mind got is to think about things, to sort out information. And if someone try to interrupt this, then the mind have to defend this and make it uncomfortable. It is the same if you refuse to eat. The body will make it more and more uncomfortable, until you have to eat.

A healthy mind thinks about everything, even blasphemy, even terrible things we read about in the news, the mind never stops working and can never be stopped from thinking. God created the mind, and God wants your mind to be healthy and do work as he intented it to do: To think about all things that happens in life and to sort out all the information we get every day, so we can have deeper understanding in things and see how things works.

 

[kaykay537]

Yes, I have had this fear wax and wane over the course of my lifetime. Thankfully, that is one OCD issue I don't deal with much presently, but it can be a real bugaboo!

It just so untrue to make sincere people believe they've done something unforgivable...accidentally or any other way. It's such a crippling deception.
I would also suggest your mom check out the website I post a lot regarding this~~
www.net-burst.net/guilty/scrupulosity.htm

Prayers and hugs for your mom~~ Most of us have been there, and it's tormenting but it's a lie.

 

[BeccaLynn]

Thanks so much for your helpful comments babegirl, Timeo, and kaykay. I will have my mom read them for encouragement. I've gone through this too, except my thoughts, although seemingly blasphemous and bombarding, seemed to convince me I wasn't saved instead of making me feel I had committed the unpardonable sin. Of course, the ocd would then tell me that since I didn't worry I had blasphemed with those horrible thoughts, something was wrong too because I should be worrying that I had. It's a terrible cycle. I thankfully don't deal with the thoughts against God much now, but I still struggle in other ways. It has a way of creeping into so many aspects of our lives. I welcome anyone else's encouragement for my mother, especially personal testimonies of those who understand what she's going through because of experience and how God has been with you through it all. I hope that just reading where others understand will help her to see that it's a real chemical problem and not a spiritual heart issue with her. Again, thanks so much for those who posted. My mom has been unable to work at her job, and she is a hard worker, due to all of this. So, it is very serious. Thanks also for your prayers.

Love,
Rebecca

 

[QUannie]

Becca,
I prayed for your mom! I am so sorry for what she is going through!
I know there were times I obsessed about not being saved and committing blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. The unforgivable sin is denying the prompting of the Holy Spirit to accept Christ as Savior until your last dying breath...remember the thief on the cross!
Your mom having this fear actually shows she believes God's Word to be true!

Dear Mom,
you are not alone!!! I am so sorry you are dealing with this, remember when our hearts condemn us God is greater than our hearts and knows everything!!
Read Isaiah 42:3!!

Love,
Q

 

[QUannie]

sorry...it was a double post!

Q

 

[kaykay537]

Thanks so much for your helpful comments babegirl, Timeo, and kaykay. I will have my mom read them for encouragement. I've gone through this too, except my thoughts, although seemingly blasphemous and bombarding, seemed to convince me I wasn't saved instead of making me feel I had committed the unpardonable sin. Of course, the ocd would then tell me that since I didn't worry I had blasphemed with those horrible thoughts, something was wrong too because I should be worrying that I had. It's a terrible cycle. I thankfully don't deal with the thoughts against God much now, but I still struggle in other ways. It has a way of creeping into so many aspects of our lives. I welcome anyone else's encouragement for my mother, especially personal testimonies of those who understand what she's going through because of experience and how God has been with you through it all. I hope that just reading where others understand will help her to see that it's a real chemical problem and not a spiritual heart issue with her. Again, thanks so much for those who posted. My mom has been unable to work at her job, and she is a hard worker, due to all of this. So, it is very serious. Thanks also for your prayers.

Love,
Rebecca

There is a section under the website I posted above that is personal testimonies. I think reading that might be helpful if she hasn't. Again, the website is

www.net-burst.net/guilty/blasphemy_testimonies.htm Some of these are pretty powerful from those who believed they had blasphemed the Holy Spirit.

In my own life, this particular OCD struggle/ spike ended when I really began to believe at deep levels that blaspheming the Holy Spirit is not something that someone just accidentally can fall into. The belief that you can is a deception that OCD plays upon.

Has your mother spoken with a pastor or Godly counselor about this? You may have said, but if so, I missed it. Continuing prayers for her~~