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Many will tell you that the "Law" was done away with after Messiah came, but neither the book of Hebrews nor the rest of the Scriptures state this. Animal sacrifice was the only thing that was done away with, with all the related commandments and dogmas contained in ordinances. We are still commanded to keep the Torah.
Christians tend to push their idea that "the Torah was done away with", and this is not accurate. This sadly turns off many Jews that are interested in the New Testament, because they KNOW that the Torah is age-abiding and will not be abolished while the present earth exists!
"Because G-d's children are human beings - made of flesh and blood - the Son also became flesh and blood. For only as a human being could he die, and only by dying could he break the power of the devil, who had the power of death. Only in this way could he set free all who have lived their lives as slaves to the fear of dying. We also know that the Son did not come to help angels; he came to help the descendants of Abraham. Therefore, it was necessary for him to be made in every respect like us, his brothers and sisters, so that he could be our merciful and faithful High Priest before G-d. Then he could offer a sacrifice that would take away the sins of the people. Since he himself has gone through suffering and testing, he is able to help us when we are being tested." - Hebrews 2:14-18
G-d is the creater of all and therefore G-d, who created life and death, is not responsible to take the affect of life upon himself in order to save us. The thought of G-d suffering at the hands of His creation is paramount to heresy and makes no sense. Satan is not anywhere near as powerful as G-d, contrary to Christianity, and so it is not Satan who as the power of death but rather G-d Himself. G-d created Satan and Satan became the tormentor of humanity but free will dictates that the devil never had total power over us because we have always had the power to resist. G-d cannot feel pain and so He cannot suffer, least of all for the sins of people, whom are not His equal, and so how can there be a trinity when G-d promised free will and promised Noah that He would not destroy humanity again?
Again this debate covers a lot of ground and so it can branch off in many directions but I think for now the discussion of the trinity will help lay the ground work for further debate on the Gospel.
Satan is not anywhere near as powerful as G-d, contrary to Christianity, and so it is not Satan who as the power of death but rather G-d Himself
G-d is the creater of all and therefore G-d, who created life and death, is not responsible to take the affect of life upon himself in order to save us.
The thought of G-d suffering at the hands of His creation is paramount to heresy and makes no sense.
Satan is not anywhere near as powerful as G-d, contrary to Christianity, and so it is not Satan who as the power of death but rather G-d Himself. G-d created Satan and Satan became the tormentor of humanity but free will dictates that the devil never had total power over us because we have always had the power to resist.
G-d cannot feel pain and so He cannot suffer,
least of all for the sins of people, whom are not His equal, and so how can there be a trinity when G-d promised free will and promised Noah that He would not destroy humanity again?
Again this debate covers a lot of ground and so it can branch off in many directions but I think for now the discussion of the trinity will help lay the ground work for further debate on the Gospel.
You have a very odd view of real Christianity - hasatan cannot originate anything himself, all he can do is to copy what G_d has already done. Therefore if you are saying the Christian view means that hasatan had something to do with Yeshua claiming to be G-d (a claim made by the Judaisers of his day) then it is clear that G_d had already sent his only son into the world, and hasatan was copying him. In that case your search is easy - find the original son and you have your Messiah (though it will, obviously, exclude those to whom you have given the title Messiah for the past 2000 years).
Back to you and your explanation of the word 'Elohim' applied to a singular G_d.
So why use the term 'Elohim' for G_d - it is a plural term? You have beaten around the edges of an answer but you have not actually answered. For the third time... please explain the title Elohim if G_d is one. It's your language, not mine, so you should be able to answer!
How do you understand this puzzling question in proverbs..
Proverbs 30:4
Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?
We know that God gathers wind in His fist. We know that He estabished all the ends of earth. But what about the other questions... who ascended up into heaven or descended and what is his name and what is his son's name?
so ascending up or descending down from Mount Sinai is like God? who is the son? and what is his name?The one who ascended and descended was Moses as the author of Proverbs was King Solomon who is stating that he should not consider himself equal to Moses.
Elohim means G-d and Eloheinu means Our G-d. The names of G-d are sometimes used in the plural to show G-d's greatness upon the individual Jew but the real name of G-d, YHVH, cannot be spelled nor pronounced.
That is the weakest and silliest argument I have ever heard. If one of my students tried this I would fail them immediately, without reading another word. You are saying that G_d is without any doubt, quite categorically one in every sense of the word and all the great Rabbis and the Tanakh agree on this, yes?
But now you openly admit that he permits himself, through the infallible word he wrote, to say that that is not always true and that he wants to call himself by a grossly misleading name that implies he is more than two and has given as a reason for that as being to show his greatness upon individuals.
It is almost as silly as saying that G_d's name is XXXX but even though I have written it, it cannot be written or pronounced! derr- you've just written it!
Please credit me, and him, with some sense - I am reasonably well educated, you know!
The names of G-d are sometimes used in the plural to show G-d's greatness upon the individual Jew but the real name of G-d, YHVH, cannot be spelled nor pronounced.
You were saying?
In which way does human language have to dictate that G_d is plural - human language has no problem with singular / plural concepts. This argument gets sillier by the minute!
Without language there can be no way of gaining a more complete knowledge about G-d.
I agree with you - using language to show G_d's plurality does allow us to gain a more complete knowledge about him. We know he is one, yet plural, more than two, in his composition.
Thank you for affirming what I have been telling you.
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