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Hearing songs with seemingly supernatural significance
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<blockquote data-quote="drich0150" data-source="post: 74362935" data-attributes="member: 218229"><p>Two things. if and when God does reveal himself to us openly and without question or in a way everyone can see and know he is God. What do you think 'science' will do? We have a hint in the marvel movie thor. "Science" classifies him as an alien. A trans dimensional alien. Which if you think about it could also work for the God of the bible once there was irrefutable proof. Science will never bend the knee to God it would simply classify or try to classify all known aspects of God in an attempt to demystify him. the thought being God must remain an enigma. as if science can explain it it can not be of God.</p><p></p><p>But if you think about that for a moment if God id the God of creation then wouldn't he have created everything science can observe and classify? So that leaves the question as to why anyone would think belief in god or belief in science are two seperate things that can not cross paths.</p><p></p><p>Some may point to evolution verse creationism. What If there was to reconcile all of the creation narrative without changing one word in the bible with all of evolution without changing a time line or time frame in it? All need to be changed is the telling or interpretation not the words of the bible. for instance the primary obstacle is the time line the church puts on the first day of creation. when no such time has been established in the bible. We do have an exit date from eden that if you count back the genealogies happened about 6000 years ago. but that is far as it goes. in that there is no time line between the end of chapter two the garden narrative and the beginning of chapter three which happened 6000 years ago.</p><p></p><p>Meaning in short God creates the garden and everything in it apart from the rest of creation in it's own time line (which ends alot of the supposed contradictions and the need for a second author) at the beginning of creation while the planet is still being formed (adam and eve are living comfortably in the completed garden) while everything out side was seeded and slowly evolves. a 100 bazillion years or what ever science now says it took for evolution to happen. up unitl 6000 years ago when the genealogies begin.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="drich0150, post: 74362935, member: 218229"] Two things. if and when God does reveal himself to us openly and without question or in a way everyone can see and know he is God. What do you think 'science' will do? We have a hint in the marvel movie thor. "Science" classifies him as an alien. A trans dimensional alien. Which if you think about it could also work for the God of the bible once there was irrefutable proof. Science will never bend the knee to God it would simply classify or try to classify all known aspects of God in an attempt to demystify him. the thought being God must remain an enigma. as if science can explain it it can not be of God. But if you think about that for a moment if God id the God of creation then wouldn't he have created everything science can observe and classify? So that leaves the question as to why anyone would think belief in god or belief in science are two seperate things that can not cross paths. Some may point to evolution verse creationism. What If there was to reconcile all of the creation narrative without changing one word in the bible with all of evolution without changing a time line or time frame in it? All need to be changed is the telling or interpretation not the words of the bible. for instance the primary obstacle is the time line the church puts on the first day of creation. when no such time has been established in the bible. We do have an exit date from eden that if you count back the genealogies happened about 6000 years ago. but that is far as it goes. in that there is no time line between the end of chapter two the garden narrative and the beginning of chapter three which happened 6000 years ago. Meaning in short God creates the garden and everything in it apart from the rest of creation in it's own time line (which ends alot of the supposed contradictions and the need for a second author) at the beginning of creation while the planet is still being formed (adam and eve are living comfortably in the completed garden) while everything out side was seeded and slowly evolves. a 100 bazillion years or what ever science now says it took for evolution to happen. up unitl 6000 years ago when the genealogies begin. [/QUOTE]
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