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Hi All:wave:

Knowing how important health minded people like yourselves like to keep informed I wish to share this timely message.

http://www.democracyinaction.org/di...althfreedomusa/campaign.jsp?campaign_KEY=7185

You have only til April 30th to any say in the matter.

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Feds eye control of vitamins, supplements – even water!
FDA looks to regulate natural substances as drugs, with prescriptions from doctors

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Posted: April 24, 2007
9:30 p.m. Eastern

By Bob Unruh
© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com

FDA Commissioner Andrew von Echenbach

The Food and Drug Administration says vitamins, supplements, herbs and other natural substances, including water when it is used to "treat" dehydration, should be classified as drugs, and opponents have only until April 30 to express their concern about the proposals under Docket No. 2006D-0480.

Thank you all for letting me post this notice, God bless.
 

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The Vitamin and Supplement Industry is just as big, if not bigger, than the FDA. Their attempt to do this will not be successful. They don't have that kind of power.

It seems to me that any judge that would be encouraged to make a ruling that one would have to get a prescription from a doctor in order to take vitamin C for example, would consider such a proposal to be an absurdity. In fact, I believe even doctors would not agree to this, since they would not possibly have enough time on their hands to write up so many prescriptions.
 
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The Vitamin and Supplement Industry is just as big, if not bigger, than the FDA. Their attempt to do this will not be successful. They don't have that kind of power.

It seems to me that any judge that would be encouraged to make a ruling that one would have to get a prescription from a doctor in order to take vitamin C for example, would consider such a proposal to be an absurdity. In fact, I believe even doctors would not agree to this, since they would not possibly have enough time on their hands to write up so many prescriptions.
:o The drug industry that directs the doctors, the FDA, and all medical affiliations is larger and the pne pushing its little wee competition out of the playing field. :help: For every dollar that goes to vitamins, 1 million goes to the drug industry.... of courses doctors are all for this... it means more money in their pockets...:scratch:
 
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:o The drug industry that directs the doctors, the FDA, and all medical affiliations is larger and the pne pushing its little wee competition out of the playing field. :help: For every dollar that goes to vitamins, 1 million goes to the drug industry.... of courses doctors are all for this... it means more money in their pockets...:scratch:

I think you're exaggerating both the issue and the financial prowess of the FDA as compared to the Vitamin and Supplement industry.

Even if the FDA does have more power financially, I don't believe it is as you had put it.
 
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I think we need to pay attention to this issue and not just blow it off. The drug industry has a very powerful lobby in Washington. Some of this legislation they support gets pushed thru committees and out onto the floor for open debate that wouldn't make it if it wasn't for the power of the big bucks they weild . Their political influence is undeniable. I certainly don't want to loose my freedom to buy Vit. C or use encapsulated herbs/roots for alternative treatment of certain illnesses. Remember, it's not a judge initially that will determine if a law is passed or not it's the house and senate. Some of these bills don't even make it thru the judiciary committee before being voted on and turned into law.

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I will say this again...

The FDA does not have this kind of power.

Do you realize that it won't merely be a matter of having to get a prescription from a busy doctor who mostly likely won't have the time to write up all of these prescriptions; but it is also an issue of merchants losing thousands, and perhaps even tens of thousands of dollars a year as a result of people not being able to freely purchase their vitamins and supplements.

And as mentioned they would also have to go after the water industry. Do you realize how big the water industry is?

Like I had said already, the FDA isn't big enough to accomplish this.
 
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I also want to mention that if this were to pass, your $5.00 bottle of vitamin C would most likely increase by $15.00 to $25.00 or more.

Oh, I failed to mention that all pain killers such as Tylenol, Motrin, and even cold medicine would require a prescription for purchase. Do you even realize what kind of complications this would create for both merchants and consumers, and even doctors for that matter?

These are the type of arguments that will shut this idea down fast. The FDA will not get this to pass.

Eventually they will have to go after food in order to be consistent with their ruling. You don't even want to go there...

Again, the FDA is not that big.
 
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I will say this again...

The FDA does not have this kind of power.

Do you realize that it won't merely be a matter of having to get a prescription from a busy doctor who mostly likely won't have the time to write up all of these prescriptions; but it is also an issue of merchants losing thousands, and perhaps even tens of thousands of dollars a year as a result of people not being able to freely purchase their vitamins and supplements.

And as mentioned they would also have to go after the water industry. Do you realize how big the water industry is?

Like I had said already, the FDA isn't big enough to accomplish this.

I agree, you are probably right, however, stranger things have happened when it comes to laws being passed in congress. If it was passed it would probably be repealed in a year or two from the outcry of citizens. A representative government does not always fulfill the will of the people. Remember, in history the prohibition laws were passed after just a few legislative attempts and took over 4 years to repeal, in the mean time a lot of folks were breaking the law by going to speak easys to get their booze.

We may have to be going to a underground speak easy to buy a bottle of Vitamin "C" in a few months :D . Can you imagine "boot legged Vitamins"? ^_^

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We may have to be going to a underground speak easy to buy a bottle of Vitamin "C" in a few months :D . Can you imagine "boot legged Vitamins"? ^_^

God Bless
Jim Larmore

It would never even get to this point. Do you realize how much money health insurance companies would have to pay out as a result of this?

So the FDA has to contend with:

1. angry consumers
2. busy doctors
3. merchants
4. food industry
5. water industry
6. vitamin and supplement industry
7. insurance companies

Do they really have that much power? Not likely.
 
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The FDA has a great deal of power. As it is now, herbal remedies have to be labeled as dietary supplements in order to be sold legally in the United States. Their labels usually include a disclaimer like this:

These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.
The FDA wields tremendous power in determining what things can be sold in the United States. For example, a sweetener called stevia, which is popular in many other countries as an alternative to sugar and artificial sweeteners, was banned in the U.S. in the early 1990s:

In 1991, at the request of an anonymous complaint, the United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA) labeled stevia as an "unsafe food additive" and restricted its import. The FDA's stated reason was "toxicological information on stevia is inadequate to demonstrate its safety."[14] This ruling was controversial, as stevia proponents pointed out that this designation violates the FDA's own guidelines, under which any natural substance used prior to 1958 with no reported adverse effects should be generally recognized as safe (GRAS). Stevia occurs naturally, requiring no patent to produce it. As a consequence, since the import ban in 1991, marketers and consumers of stevia have shared a belief that the sweetener industry pressured the FDA to keep stevia out of the United States. Arizona congressman Jon Kyl, for example, called the FDA action against stevia "a restraint of trade to benefit the artificial sweetener industry."[15] To date, the FDA has never revealed the source of the original complaint in its responses to requests filed under the Freedom of Information Act.
The FDA requires proof of safety before recognizing a food additive as safe. A similar burden of proof is required for the FDA to ban a substance or label it unsafe. Nevertheless, stevia remained banned until after the 1994 Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act forced the FDA in 1995 to revise its stance to permit stevia to be used as a dietary supplement, although not as a food additive — a position that stevia proponents regard as contradictory because it simultaneously labels stevia as safe and unsafe, depending on how it is sold.[16]


(From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stevia)
The FDA makes a lot of questionable decisions, in my opinion, because of political and financial pressure. I don't trust it to tell me what things are safe for me to eat. I don't trust its assurances that the studies that it supposedly relies on to make decisions are unbiased. However, political pressure from the other side can check its power when there is enough of an outcry. It did somewhat in the stevia controversy although it is still not allowed to be sold as a food additive in the U.S. I just don't think the outcry happens often enough. At this point, the pharmaceutical and food industries definitely have more influence on the FDA than the smaller, less organized groups of advocates for alternative remedies and natural food additives.
 
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At this point, the pharmaceutical and food industries definitely have more influence on the FDA than the smaller, less organized groups of advocates for alternative remedies and natural food additives.

Maybe so, but again, the FDA doesn't have the power to check the following groups in their totality, which is what they will have to do:

1. angry consumers
2. busy doctors that don't have enough time on their hands to write up all of the prescriptions that will be needed to meet the demand of the public.
3. the insurance companies that will be forced to foot the bill on vitamins and supplements.
4. the water industry
5. the food industry
6. merchants who will be forced to change their whole pattern of service.
7. and finally the vitamin and supplement industry

The FDA may be powerful, but they won't stand a chance with this one. There is too much to risk to allow such a proposal to pass. It will create too many complications, which will result in the loss of a lot of money.
 
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Ephedra is a prime example of the power of FDA. Pulled off the shelf in a heart beat. Here it is years later on April 14th, 2005 that finally a federal court ruled against FDA's ban after they were sued so that the public can again have access to the product.

Let your congressmen and senators know that access to supplements is important to you. A useful website for contacting them is www.saveoursupplements.org
 
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Criminal prosecutions are relatively rare because the various remedies at FDA's disposal, such as recalls and seizures, and the bad publicity that violations of the Act can generate and the desire of most companies to comply with FDA regulations are sufficient to ensure, if not complete compliance with FDA requirements, at least an honest effort by the vast majority of companies and individuals working in FDA-regulated industries.

Biologic, Drug and Device manufacturers should be inspected at least once every 2 years, but the FDA acknowledges in its fiscal year 2003 Performance Plan that "only 22 percent of human drug, and 13 percent of medical device statutory establishments were inspected in [fiscal year] 2000."


According to the FDA Enforcement Story, the FDA carried out 18,649 inspections in 2002.


According to the FDA Enforcement Story, the FDA issued 7,683 Form 483s in fiscal year 2001 The FDA Enforcement Story is an internal FDA publication that can be requested by members of the press and public through the Freedom of Information Act.

Warning Letters are posted by the FDA. In 2001, the FDA issued 1,306 Warning Letters, according to a database maintained by warningletters.com.

According to the FDA Enforcement Story, in fiscal year 2001 there were 4,563 recalls of FDA-regulated products. Two-hundred forty four of these recalls were class I recalls, and of these 214 were recalls of food products. Three-thousand, three hundred twenty six recalls in 2001 were class II recalls, of which 1,513 were recalls of biologic products, 960 of medical devices, 396 of animal drug or animal food products, 289 of food products or supplements, and 168 of human drug products. Information about recalls, seizures, injunctions, and other enforcement action may be found in the FDA Enforcement Report.


Seizures of drug and biologic products are conducted under Section 304 of the FD&C Act and allow the FDA to take custody of the product after obtaining a court order or under section 304(g), which allows devices to be seized without a court order. The owner of the products can contest the seizure in court, agree to destroy the seized products, or take no action. The FDA received approval for 27 seizures in fiscal year 2001, according to the Enforcement Story.


Some of the powers just stated can be used by the FDA based on its delegated power under the FD&C Act. Other remedies, however, such as seizures or criminal prosecution will require the agency to go to court. The FDA's Office of the Chief Counsel helps ensure that the FDA complies with the law and reviews cases for prosecution (Warning Letter Review policy). If a matter must be prosecuted in court, the Department of Justice's Office of Consumer Litigation and U.S. Attorneys in the relevant location will represent the agency. The DOJ and FDA may obtain an injunction from the court ordering the company to perform or cease performing certain conduct.

In fiscal year 2001, 12 consent decrees of injunction were filed by the agency. Companies signing consent decrees in recent months include Schering-Plough (alleged good manufacturing practice violations); Watson Laboratories (relating to alleged good manufacturing practice violations); E'Ola International (marketing of ephedrine containing dietary supplements); and ElanHoldings, a subsidiary of Ireland's Elan Corp. (alleged good manufacturing practice violations). Another company, an Ohio-based medical device company, pleaded guilty to 6 misdemeanor violations and agreed to pay $1.2 million in fines to settle charges that the company failed to report adverse events and submitted "false and misleading" data about a clinical study in 1999 and 2000.


In 2002, the FDA also has sought a court order to hold the American Red Cross in contempt of a 1993 consent decree based on inspections of Red Cross facilities that allegedly "revealed persistent and serious violations of blood safety rules." The American Red Cross collects and processes donated blood.


Companies that repeatedly violate drug approval regulations may be placed on the application integrity policy list, under which the agency will defer review of drug applications from certain facilities or the entire company until corrective actions are taken. Companies and individuals also may be debarred if they have been convicted of violations of FDA regulations, effectively meaning that they can no longer submit materials to the FDA or work for organizations that are regulated by the FDA.


The FDA may also disseminate adverse publicity about a company or product, and even if the agency does not publicize a matter, trade and business publications may report a company's violation of FDA regulations. But because of the great interest surrounding FDA-regulated products on the part of both consumers and investors, in many cases the national or local TV, radio, and newspapers have already broken a story even before the FDA has issued a press release. Adverse publicity can affect the company's stock price and undermine the trust of its customers, both lay and professional. To cite a recent example, when Schering-Plough recently agreed to pay $500 million to the FDA for alleged violations of good manufacturing practice regulations, major newspapers covered the story (FDA, Schering-Plough Signs Consent Decree, 2002). Because the consent decree was expected to, and ultimately did, result in large fines, stories concerning the company's alleged violations and the ongoing consent decree negotiations between the FDA and Schering-Plough attorneys was the subject of many news reports even before the decree was finally signed. Since May 2002, the company has been forced to comment on the consent decree in conferences with shareholders.


Companies also may have approvals withdrawn or review of pending applications suspended until violations are corrected.

The Enforcement Story reports that in fiscal year 2001, the OCI was responsible for 422 arrests, 360 convictions, and $100 million in fines and forfeitures.


Case law has established that under the legal principle of strict liability company officials may face criminal charges for violations of the law by their companies even if they are not aware of the violations or violations result from the actions of lower level employees.


For more information, see the list of laws enforced by the FDA and information about inspections and good manufacturing practice regulations.
http://www.fda.gov/opacom/laws/

http://www.fda.gov/ora/inspect_ref/iom/iomtc.html
 
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