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Health and Late-starters

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Late-starters can benefit from healthy habits: study
By Ishani Ganguli1 hour, 33 minutes ago @ http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070629...c&printer=1;_ylt=Ari2AwB5ND3_24QzrPYpi8MR.3QA (6/29/2007
Even in middle age, adopting a healthy lifestyle can lower the risk for heart disease and premature death within years of changing habits, researchers reported on Thursday.
Middle-aged adults who began eating five or more fruits and vegetables every day, exercising for at least 2 1/2 hours a week, keeping weight down and not smoking decreased their risk of heart disease by 35 percent and risk of death by 40 percent in the four years after they started.
"The adopters of a healthy lifestyle basically caught up. Within four years, their mortality rate and rate of heart attacks matched the people who had been doing these behaviors all along," said Dr. Dana King at the Medical University of South Carolina, who led the research.
That is not to say people should wait until their 40s or 50s to get on track, he added.
"But even if you have not had a healthy lifestyle previously, it's not too late to adopt those healthy lifestyle habits and gain almost immediate benefits."
King and his team set out to find if late-starters could reap the rewards of habits like eating vegetables and walking 30 minutes a day.
When they began tracking nearly 16,000 Americans between the ages of 45 and 64 in the late 1980s, only 8.5 percent were following all four of the habits they were studying, they reported in the American Journal of Medicine.
Out of the other adults, 8.4 percent started practicing all four habits by six years after the study began.
Those 970 lifestyle converts were most likely to pick up the fruit and vegetable habit at that late stage. Losing weight to fall within the healthy to overweight range -- which the researchers counted as one of the healthy habits -- was the least popular change.
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When they had picked up all four habits, they enjoyed a sharp decline in heart disease risk and in death from any cause.
It took all four -- having just three of the healthy habits yielded no heart benefits and a more modest decrease in overall risk of death.
Still, said Dr. Nichola Davis at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine, "these benefits are on a continuum. The more of the healthy habits that you can adapt, the better. ...These are modest changes that they're talking about."
King's team took age, gender, race, and other risk categories for cardiovascular disease into account, although King said the converts likely took up other healthy life changes -- such as cutting down on salt or upping their calcium intake -- that might have contributed to their health benefits.
He and Davis, who was not involved in the study, said they were troubled so few Americans were doing them.
In particular, men, blacks, people with less education and lower incomes, and people with high blood pressure or diabetes were less likely to follow the health guidelines from the beginning or adopt them later in life.

Isn't it interesting that some people complain when Ellen White says it, but when the medical professionals in the world say it then its okay?
 

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The critics err because they do not know Scripture:

Killing yourself slowly or otherwise is a sin.

Also, since you are made in the image of God it would behoove any Bible-believing Christian to take care of the temple of the Holy Ghost:

1 Corinthians 6:20
For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

1 Corinthians 3:16
Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

1 Corinthians 3:17
If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

1 Corinthians 6:19
What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
 
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Thanks for the great post DJ. And I understand what you are saying about what EGW wrote a HUNDRED years ago--just now being verified by science today.

But some ppl are slow to learn this truth. As far as calling something 'sin' that some do not feel the bible calls sin--maybe we should try this text on for size....

Jas 4:17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.

We are told to present our bodies LIVING sacrifices unto God. Therefore--we should live according to the health laws given to us by God Himself. If we refuse to do so--then isn't this sin? I think so.




 
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Honor, I have a question....

I could've sworn that when we were talking a couple of years ago that you told me EGW said cancer was a virus, and everyone just scoffed at her. Is that right?

My Micro book says that cancer is definitely a virus. It also says that we all have cancer cells in our bodies, but they can't gain ground against our immune system unless we hinder it in some way.

I may have a bad memory of that, but I was pretty sure that you said EGW said it was a virus over a hundred years ago.
 
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About the time I started back to college, all the ads started coming out about the "new" discovery (it's not so new, it's just new to US) that most cervical cancer is caused by a virus called the Human Papillomavirus.

It's totally preventable.

Think how many women that information could've saved in our history if they'd discovered this earlier.

It's the same virus that causes genital warts.

There's going to be a lot more "revelations" about the viruses that cause cancer and about pumping up our immune systems to be able to keep them at bay.

There's a HUGE section of my book devoted to this subject (cancer being a virus), but I let a friend borrow it. Let me see if I can find it online.
 
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my understanding was that cancer could be caused by radiation damage or other such things (or toxic damage, or virus damage)

so not caused by a virus in the traditional sense of the word

now maybe after it exists, it could be classified as a virus

JM

I used to think the same thing.

The Human Papillomavirus is a virus that TURNS into cancer. It causes abnormal cell changes, and once our immune system can't keep up with it, BAM. (Well, I said "our" but I meant women in particular on this one).
 
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Oh the dreaded sarcastic "umm". :)

We ALL have cancer JM. We just don't have signs or the affects of the disease because most of the time our immune systems are able to kill off the cancerous cells before they take over.

When we do things that hinder our immune systems, cancer is almost always sure to follow.

The doctor teaching my class said that just like they've discovered HPV causes cervical cancer, they'll discover different viruses that caused different kinds of cancer.

I don't remember the exact name of the virus he was talking about one day (because it wasn't going to be on the test...HA), but there's a virus that gets into your pancreas that they're also starting to think causes pancreatic cancer.

There's a lot of things yet to be discovered, but one hundred years ago people laughed at EGW for saying it was a virus, and there's at least ONE proven case of that so far with HPV, so hey..........
 
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Which reminds me.

I was reading about Louis Pasteur (it wasn't required reading, I was just researching him on my own) and it is so interesting how many times he was called a "quack" by his fellow Scientists. Louis was a chemist, not a doctor.

Anyway, when his daughter was about to have a baby, he insisted that the local doctor wash his hands before going in there to deliver it. The doctor thought Louis was INSANE for asking him to do that.

They used to drop their instruments and just blow the dust off them thinking they were clean.

That was in 1860 I believe.

We've certainly come a long way since then.

140 years ago doctors would tell their patients that SIN had caused them to become sick, not bacteria. They didn't believe in what they couldn't see!
 
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Oh the dreaded sarcastic "umm". :)

We ALL have cancer JM. We just don't have signs or the affects of the disease because most of the time our immune systems are able to kill off the cancerous cells before they take over.

I know this, that is why I was questoining cancer is caused by viruses.

I am pretty sure that they can cause cancer in a petri dish using radiation.

JM
 
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Honor, I have a question....

I could've sworn that when we were talking a couple of years ago that you told me EGW said cancer was a virus, and everyone just scoffed at her. Is that right?

My Micro book says that cancer is definitely a virus. It also says that we all have cancer cells in our bodies, but they can't gain ground against our immune system unless we hinder it in some way.

I may have a bad memory of that, but I was pretty sure that you said EGW said it was a virus over a hundred years ago.
You are correct Lainie-EGW DID proclaim cancer to be a virus--but she used the word 'germ' at the time. This is taken from the EWG estate web site..

On page 322 we discussed Ellen White’s instruction regarding dietary factors that may cause cancer. At the time she wrote, eminent men and women of science emphatically declared that cancer was not infectious, that there was no cancer germ.
Decades later, in 1956, Wendell Stanley, a Ph.D. virologist and Nobel Prize winner at the University of California, asserted his belief that “viruses cause most or all human cancers.” He described viruses as “midget germs” that “lurk in the human body for years, even a lifetime; some cause trouble, some do not. . . . In some cases, the cancer viruses might become active by aging, dietary indiscretions, hormonal imbalance, chemicals, radiation, or a combination of these stresses, and malignancies may follow.”146 Much cancer research has been done since, lending support to Ellen White’s reference to “cancerous germs,”* [see note] but currently it is believed that there are other, more common, causes of cancer as well.
Dr. Robert J. Huebner, chief of the Laboratory of Infectious Diseases at the National Institutes of Health at Bethesda, Maryland, reported in 1961 that “there isn’t the slightest doubt in our minds that human cancers are caused by viruses. To this extent, they are simply infectious diseases.”147

And again.... Associated factors with aging: Note Ellen White’s interesting comment in 1864 regarding how aging may affect certain factors that stimulate latent cancer germs: “Cancerous humor [bodily fluid] which would lay [lie] dormant in the system [throughout] their life-time, is inflamed, and commences its eating, destructive work.”148

Now who says she is not of God??
 
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140 years ago doctors would tell their patients that SIN had caused them to become sick, not bacteria. They didn't believe in what they couldn't see!

Laine--to an extent these drs. were right. Violation of the laws of health do cause sickness. Some may call this sin--others may call it choice. But call it whay they may--We mostly cause our own illnesses.
 
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Laine--to an extent these drs. were right. Violation of the laws of health do cause sickness. Some may call this sin--others may call it choice. But call it whay they may--We mostly cause our own illnesses.

Well, "mostly" is the key word there.

You and I have discussed Semmelweiss' discovery of the bacteria causing women to die after giving birth. That particular bacteria was rampant in hospitals (but mostly on the doctor's INSTRUMENTS that they took from house to house) and I know those mothers didn't have a thing to do with it. If the doctors had sterilized their instruments and WASHED THEIR HANDS it wouldn't have been an epidemic.

To quote Louis Pasteur "ignorance was the cause!" He said that to a midwife after she told a woman's husband that his wife had done some great sin to deserve her death (her death that happened just a few moments before she said it).

It was that whole arrogant "we know everything" attitude that Pasteur fought so much against. That midwife torked him.

Doctors don't know everything or I wouldn't be here. :)

I do agree that we do a lot of unhealthy things that we already KNOW aren't good for us though.

At least back in the 1860s people weren't educated about those things, but we have no excuse.

I know as a child of God that I'm protected, but I don't take liberties like jumping into uncoming traffic. We have to use our common sense too.

I'm going to use this summer to do so many things that I haven't been doing regularly. Most of all I'm really going to watch what I eat.

Oh, that reminds me....a friend of mine at college ordered some chili cheese fries at lunch the other day and I could smell the rotten meat from across the table. I asked her if the meat smelled okay to her and she took a BIG whiff and said it smelled fine.

It wasn't fine.

I don't know if I can just smell it now that I don't eat meat or WHAT, but that was so gross.
 
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LOL--Lainie--I think as we distance ourselves from flesh meats--we DO smell it for what it is--DEAD stuff!

But the meat you smelled, probably use bad.

I remember years ago when I worked in a hospital lab--that the pathologist brought the 'innards' of a man into the lab. I watched as he placed them all in a sink (because the blood was still draining from them) and as I stood there--the smell from those organs smelled just like steak. I was sooo glad I was a vegetarian then or I would have puked! lol
 
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