Have you got a rational explanation for the so-called Miracle of the Sun at Fatima?

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Here is a description of that Miracle of the Sun:



Have you got a rational explanation for the so-called Miracle of the Sun at Fatima?
 

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Why do you expect a rational explanation?

Here are the facts.
1/ over 3 months before it happened the apparition promised a miracle so that
“ all would see and believe “

2/ it was so publicised that 70000 showed up to see it , in a very hard place to get to!
3/ that included many professional witnesses like police, scientists ,
4/ more importantly many who came to mock including the atheist authorities deternined to wipe out religion in a generation and all leading secular newspapers. They wanted to report a “ no show” to kill religion once and for all.

5/ But at the appointed time and place a massive spectacle occurred . Torrential rain stopped, the clouds parted, a disc they assumed was the sun, whirled uncontrollably, radiating all colours , and seemed to drop to the earth.
Nothing like it was seen before or since. There are books full of witness statements
6/ All the journalists and witnesses confirmed it including all the secular newspapers
The famous headline in o seculo , “ como o sol baillou no meio-dia a Fatima” “ when the sun danced at midday at Fatima” reported all round the world.
many of the atheists converted after it.

Now to the critical facts.
7/ it was real not mass hypnosis , it was witnessed by those not expecting it even tens of km away.
8/ it was physical. The ground dried in minutes after torrential rain as the “sun” fell to the earth in a threatening way but if you know about that part of portugal puddles take weeks to disappear at that time of year. - I live there much of the time. Many witnesses confirm that. They were soaked and instantly dry.

So The undeniable miracle was prophecy fulfilled

9/ It does not matter what physics underlay it “ rational explanation “ if indeed it had one. Argue about meteorological events all you like!

Because a prophecy was fulfilled at a time and place, so extraordinary it cannot have been chance.
That by itself makes it scientifically inexplicable for all time.

The messages the lady left were frightening enough.
illiterate Children speaking of the threat and errors of Russia before Lenin and Trotsky had got their act together even!

It wasn’t the only prophecy,
- the unknown light heralding WWII in the reign of a pope not yet a pope, fulfilled in early 1938.
The so called red aurora covering all the Northern hemisphere , which Aurora just don’t do. But it did.
Days later hitler annexed Austria !
- even the children knew when they would die,
 
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Of course.
I’m guessing almost all Catholics have. So strange question..
The history of why it was called Fatima is interesting.
As is speculating on why our lady chose it.

At zeitoun , in Egypt troubled by the brotherhood and attacks on copts
At Mary’s house in ephesus
And Fatima , the name of Mohammed’s daughter.
Its as if she is trying to call for peace with Muslims.
She is respectEd by both, so well placed to do so.
 
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It was one of the first things I read about when I was in the process of converting.
 
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It was one of the first things I read about when I was in the process of converting.
As you know , it resonated with me so much I live near there half of the year. I can’t stay away!

Although watching “ the song of Bernadette “ when I was only in junior school made me realise Catholics were different. Our family friends who were catholic, clearly lived their faith too.
But it would be another 30 years of convincing myself, before I came Home!

We went on camping holidays with them including to france. We got to the Loire valley, we stayed and they carried on south. Nobody said where they were going. I was too young then to know where Lourdes was!!
 
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Sounds convincing!
 
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I quote a report:

 
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Sounds convincing!
Sceptics try to focus on the event , to try to prove it was meterological ( therefore somehow natural)

It is irrelevant.
All we have to do is prove it was physical , ( the drying) so not hallucination , and it was clearly extraordinary, never happened again before or since.

The prophecy is then enough to say it was scientifically inexplicable
It happened at the appointed time and place so “ all would see and believe”

There are books full of witness statements , sadly many just in Portuguese.

There are many other fascinating details of Fatima.

Have you ever heard of the doves that accompanied the first journey of the pilgrim virgin( statue) to Lisbon?
They flew in at bombarral After which nobody could get them to leave her feet.
Then in the mass, at the moment of consecration at the cathedral in Lisbon two flew to either end of the altar with open wings, the other went to our lady’s crown.
Then after the mass all threes returned to her feet!!

It was so extraordinary , The newpapers focussed on the doves not the pilgrimage.!
Books have been written about doves who followed the pilgrim virgin wherever she went.
As some left or died, others flew in. None of them tethered. Nobody could get them to leave.
 
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