Has anyone else read these ? Seriously worrying!

[Mountainmike]

It Is easy to think that such as Gruner are out on a limb as a lone voice saying that the message of Fatima was subverted, although it was abundantly clear that control of the blue army of Fatima was taken over from Haffert by Luna, and soul magazine was destroyed as Was the blue army message. The Fatima apostolate is no longer teaching the true message..

But the truth is scary.
read such as devils final battle ( Kramer)
or fourth secret ( Socchi)
( or others such as secret still hidden, frer michel etc )


And it is demonstrable FACT from papal and otherwritings and documents that
1/ the full third secret has not been revealed , which is about church apostasy , and it has already happened .
2/ the true message of Fatima is no longer even promoted - and it is serious - it was so bad that popes did not want to reveal it.
3/ there has been a Masonic and communist conspiracy against the Catholic Church , which communism saw as the true threat
4/ russian spies have attested to how they regarded Catholicism as the true problem, and their efforts to undermine and infiltrate it
5/ Lucia was silenced when she spoke out, her Message replaced with a neutered message
6/ popes and high up officials since 1960 on have sought to hide the message and promoted Inatead the false doctrines of ecumenism, tolerance of Islam ,, and ostpolitik ( not challenging communism or the Russian orthodox) by the Vatican allowing the errors to propagate more
7/ such as akita also silenced


If God was offended in 1917, how much more so now, the main errors of Russia are spreading, with abortion as the biggest cause of death ! So fire from the sky , countries annihilated and living envying the dead are our future not our past.

 

[chevyontheriver]

It Is easy to think that such as Gruner are out on a limb as a lone voice saying that the message of Fatima was subverted, although it was abundantly clear that control of the blue army of Fatima was taken over from Haffert by Luna, and soul magazine was destroyed as Was the blue army message. The Fatima apostolate is no longer teaching the true message..

But the truth is scary.
read such as devils final battle ( Kramer)
or fourth secret ( Socchi)
( or others such as secret still hidden, frer michel etc )


And it is demonstrable FACT from papal and otherwritings and documents that
1/ the full third secret has not been revealed , which is about church apostasy , and it has already happened .
2/ the true message of Fatima is no longer even promoted - and it is serious - it was so bad that popes did not want to reveal it.
3/ there has been a Masonic and communist conspiracy against the Catholic Church , which communism saw as the true threat
4/ russian spies have attested to how they regarded Catholicism as the true problem, and their efforts to undermine and infiltrate it
5/ Lucia was silenced when she spoke out, her Message replaced with a neutered message
6/ popes and high up officials since 1960 on have sought to hide the message and promoted Inatead the false doctrines of ecumenism, tolerance of Islam ,, and ostpolitik ( not challenging communism or the Russian orthodox) by the Vatican allowing the errors to propagate more
7/ such as akita also silenced


If God was offended in 1917, how much more so now, the main errors of Russia are spreading, with abortion as the biggest cause of death ! So fire from the sky , countries annihilated and living envying the dead are our future not our past.

A good Catholic can be prepared with or without Fatima. But there has been a lot of apostasy. And the future does look bleak civilizationally. So we can fast and pray and do reparations and persevere. Even without Fatima, or the full story of Fatima being available. And it is probable in my mind that there have been and are ongoing attempts to subvert the Christian faith.

 

[fide]

A good Catholic can be prepared with or without Fatima. But there has been a lot of apostasy. And the future does look bleak civilizationally. So we can fast and pray and do reparations and persevere. Even without Fatima, or the full story of Fatima being available. And it is probable in my mind that there have been and are ongoing attempts to subvert the Christian faith.

Agreed; a careful reading, listening and hearing the several last-days descriptions of Jesus would suffice. And the Book of Revelation. So much is in Scripture - but typically much "overlooked" meaning seldom noticed in many parishes.

Also gravely lacking is rightful attentiveness to our Mother Mary - intrinsic to Catholic worship, according to the CCC, but kept secret lest anyone be offended.