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Hi, this may be hard to read, for it is hard to explain. This is not a real life situation, but more of an internet situation. See there is this forum I go to and most of the people somtimes go overboard, with their attitudes, sick humer ect... and are sort of extreme when it comes to bullying others, these forums I go on raid a game known as Habbo Hotel, anyway I have found out that a member there who has been harrassed has ran away (the description on this missing child site matches what I heard about him, sitll a chance of it not being him), but these forums I go on raid a game known as Habbo Hotel, its mostly a joke..but ever since, I went back on this hotel game, searched rooms in which he created...on eroom was called, "December 14th, 2006" which was the date he was missing, in there contained thes little notes that had notes that could be taken as suicidal notes, but the worst part is the people on the forum, seem to be joking about the possiblity of suicide, and running away, just as I found out about a similar case on the website, but I am attached to these people as friends, so I feel like I can be a part of somthing, though I am against of most of their opionions, and sick joking on serious issues. can anyone help me?
 
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You have to act like a castle gate, closing yourself to bad people/things/events and opening yourself up to good people/things/events.

Its better to be alone, then to be with people who ruin your life. People who joke about suicide in that way aren't friends.

You must realise that we live in a world that is filled with darkness and hatred, and that , and this is destroying our emotional world, Jesus warned us that we will recognize them by their fruits. *for the next example (its just theory i don't mean it)*

I am your best friend , I joke around when your friend has commited suicide. Although we goto the movies together, i think your hair is really ugly and can't stand your mothers guts, i think you are jealous and insecure, we often fight and yell to eachother but then can come along for a while again.

Tell me what fruit would i be that Jesus referred to? Wouldn't it be the fruits of hatred , am i not a 'so called' friend instead of a best friend? Im just stuck with you in order not to be lonely because elsewhise no one would want to be with me.

So being stuck with someone merely out of the need to search for companionship doesn't equal that person to be your 'friend' When you are in need a real friend steps INTO your life, while a fake friend steps OUT.

Im sure this boy that wanted to commit suicide has lived in a world full of darkness and hatred and has more hay on his fork then he can bear, that nasty remark could 'just' be the little extra push that a person like that needs to go over the 'edge'. You need to be carefull not to end up in the same spot as this boy, its only misery, and its definitly worthwhile to fight for your own happyness as well as that of others in your life. Don't spend time with people that only drag you down.

I know those kind of people on the forum , they think they know it all, they are very stand alone and zero regards for other people's feelings. We need to stick up for eachother because as a group of people who love and support eachother, we stand stronger then those who depend on their own. When one falls, we will do anything to get that person back on its feet.

What you can do is pray with all your heart and ask God to intervene in this boys life. And if you meet him in person someone or on the internet, you must advice him to seek professional help immediatly.
 
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Well I kind of feel attached to this group, we dont do anything illegal ect... just differ in their opinions, I know there is good in everybody, the fact that we have large numbers, and raid, appeals to me, the feeling I belong. And I am finding more on this situation, so far it makes more sense that he ran away, I do not know this person well, they are known for sick humor, but I force my self to get passed it.
 
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In one word

'denial'

basically your so afraid to lose them, that you rather would allow yourself to get hurted by them, then give up what is bad for you out of pure fear of lonelyness.

In a group of youngsters its about time that they have reached 'that' age, where they start using drugs,have sex,booze and try things out. I just want you to remember that a friend who does something, that you really don't want to do 'isn't' a friend. I don't mind if you don't believe it, i barely believed my father when he told it to me. I've already recognized them by their fruits, its time you also see the same, or experience it thru the 'hard' way. You will have to aknowledge the 'darkness', uncaring and most of all hatred in their hearts. You will see the selfishness emerge, because they all seek self gratification. They don't seek out to love you or to bring happyness into your life. They seek out to forfill their selfish desires. Honestly ask yourself again, would a real friend joke about another friend wanting to commit suicide?

They reflect their hearts on others like a mirror reflects the image of a person. They don't see the hurt they are causing to their enviroment and eventually that hurt will come back to them. In that the saying 'you reap what you sow' is true, at this moment you don't believe a word what i say, which is completely fine. Find out for yourself. Come back in 3 years and tell me if i was right or wrong.
 
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Hi, this may be hard to read, for it is hard to explain. This is not a real life situation, but more of an internet situation. See there is this forum I go to and most of the people somtimes go overboard, with their attitudes, sick humer ect... and are sort of extreme when it comes to bullying others, these forums I go on raid a game known as Habbo Hotel, anyway I have found out that a member there who has been harrassed has ran away (the description on this missing child site matches what I heard about him, sitll a chance of it not being him), but these forums I go on raid a game known as Habbo Hotel, its mostly a joke..but ever since, I went back on this hotel game, searched rooms in which he created...on eroom was called, "December 14th, 2006" which was the date he was missing, in there contained thes little notes that had notes that could be taken as suicidal notes, but the worst part is the people on the forum, seem to be joking about the possiblity of suicide, and running away, just as I found out about a similar case on the website, but I am attached to these people as friends, so I feel like I can be a part of somthing, though I am against of most of their opionions, and sick joking on serious issues. can anyone help me?

I know how you feel. There are some forums I go to that aren't Christian-centered and inevitably, you end up with raunchy discussion and some not nice behavior. But this is what I do to get through some of these things. Display the nature of Christ through what you say and do. Tell these friends of your's what you think of how they've been treating others. I mean, if they really are your friends, they should at least give you the respect of listening to what you have to say and take it into consideration. And even if things don't work out the way you would want them to, there are a billion other forums out there where you can make true friends who will give you that respect. People tend to go a little overboard when they have the protection of the computer screen in front of them. And sometimes it's necessary for us to remind them of proper decor online and keep them in check.

Hoping for the best~
 
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Its not really a group of friends, I mean I know some people on there I can call friends, but we are just a group, not friends. Like an army, we all work together, but somtimes do not like each other. I should not keep judging them as bad people. The only problem they have, is lack of respect for others, and life...not supprising from a bunch of Computer addicts (like me), the only difference with me is I have more respect towards people and life.
 
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Its not really a group of friends, I mean I know some people on there I can call friends, but we are just a group, not friends. Like an army, we all work together, but somtimes do not like each other. I should not keep judging them as bad people. The only problem they have, is lack of respect for others, and life...not supprising from a bunch of Computer addicts (like me), the only difference with me is I have more respect towards people and life.

Oh alrite, thanks for the clarification. Like I said before, people tend to get a little more aggressive and careless addressing others when they're behind the keyboard. And there's not too much we can really do about that other than earn they're respect. If you work like a team, then you should be able to gain the respect of your team-mates. They're not bad people, perhaps cocky and disrespectful at times, but every person respects someone else. If you can be that someone, then when you tell them when they're out of line, they'll listen. It's good you respect people and life. After all, b
oth are a gift.
 
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Is there perhaps a Christian version of this game on the web which you could play instead.

I would also just echo what has already been said here - when someone is hiding behind a keyboard and computer screen they can type a lot of things they don't really mean, and wouldn't actually say to someone, face to face.

I hope also that you are a member of a club or activity group and meet up with real people. It is all very well sitting behind a key board (and many of us do it here for extended periods of time) but you need to get out and meet real people and participate in activities with them :)
 
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Is there perhaps a Christian version of this game on the web which you could play instead.

I would also just echo what has already been said here - when someone is hiding behind a keyboard and computer screen they can type a lot of things they don't really mean, and wouldn't actually say to someone, face to face.

I hope also that you are a member of a club or activity group and meet up with real people. It is all very well sitting behind a key board (and many of us do it here for extended periods of time) but you need to get out and meet real people and participate in activities with them :)
A Christian version? lol this game has thousands of people on it a day, who knows what kind of groups they are, but these are massive numbers who storm the game. I believe our numbers have caused servers to crash. This kind of stuff appeals to me.
 
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Can you be involved with the group without having it impact your own behavior? To me that's absolutely critical. If you have the strength of character to hang in there, then it's a battleground that needs you. I would hope you're part of a group of people who can help you hang in there, through discipleship in your church or some other way.

Battling on this ground requires your awareness that there is more to your beliefs than simply accepting or rejecting someone else's behavior or opinions, though. Paul described it in Ephesians 6. The "third way" of Christianity is redeeming the times.

I expect this is something of a fantasy world; so the conditions aren't real. You have to take that into account, and ask yourself, "Can I be redemptive in this situation?"
 
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Can you be involved with the group without having it impact your own behavior? To me that's absolutely critical. If you have the strength of character to hang in there, then it's a battleground that needs you. I would hope you're part of a group of people who can help you hang in there, through discipleship in your church or some other way.

Battling on this ground requires your awareness that there is more to your beliefs than simply accepting or rejecting someone else's behavior or opinions, though. Paul described it in Ephesians 6. The "third way" of Christianity is redeeming the times.

I expect this is something of a fantasy world; so the conditions aren't real. You have to take that into account, and ask yourself, "Can I be redemptive in this situation?"
They have changed me in some ways, I dont want to be such a "goody goody" who cares about every little thing. I am going through stages where I am rejecting common, "do this, do that" that alot of other Christians say. But I figure I should get some opinions, I am probably one of the most lay back Christians there are in this world.
 
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