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Hamas has fired over 450 rockets into Israel
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<blockquote data-quote="Ana the Ist" data-source="post: 73942698" data-attributes="member: 302807"><p>Is it though? How much do they really rely on our aid?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Stop driving then.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ok...what's the basis for the claim?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sorry, but "they live there" isn't much of a legal claim. Israelis live there now...so by <em><strong>that</strong></em> logic, it's <em><strong>their</strong></em> land.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You may not understand it....you may not know it....but that doesn't change it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What comprehensive solution can possibly exist while Palestinians deny Israel's right to exist?</p><p></p><p>I mean let's pretend that we worked out a 2 state solution in this fantasy scenario....</p><p></p><p>Do you think that suddenly, for the first time since the issue of Israel came up, Palestinians will be recognizing Israel's right to exist as a nation?</p><p></p><p>Why? Because they're a friendly, reasonable, rational people?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well let's see...</p><p></p><p>Israel continues to create settlements in Palestine territory....what's the logical conclusion there?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Back to the anti-semitic memes huh? The Liberty is a favorite of neo nazis everywhere.</p><p></p><p>It's a friendly fire incident....one of many that happen in every conflict, and one Israel has formally apologized and paid restitution for.</p><p></p><p>Why bring it up?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>In theory, Israel could launch a nuke at a nearby neighboring region. </p><p></p><p>The fallout to Israel though makes this a questionable last resort at best.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So when that happens....get back to me.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Whoa....</p><p></p><p>I see, so whomever is better at armed conflicts is <em><strong>automatically wrong</strong></em>.</p><p></p><p>And you're questioning my logic.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>To eliminate a hostile enemy?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Suppose Mexico started indiscriminately launching rockets at citizens in Texas, Arizona, California...because it used to be "their land"?</p><p></p><p>What do you think our response would be??</p><p></p><p>Oopsies? Sorry Mexico....here's your land back? Sorry US citizens....pack up and move?</p><p></p><p>What's your argument here lol?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well let's be honest....at no point has this neighbor ever recognized your right to exist.</p><p></p><p>And he likely never will.</p><p></p><p>Now what?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Problems to work through....</p><p></p><p>I suppose that would be considered putting it mildly if you're a white landowner in S Africa afraid for their life.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ana the Ist, post: 73942698, member: 302807"] Is it though? How much do they really rely on our aid? Stop driving then. Ok...what's the basis for the claim? Sorry, but "they live there" isn't much of a legal claim. Israelis live there now...so by [I][B]that[/B][/I] logic, it's [I][B]their[/B][/I] land. You may not understand it....you may not know it....but that doesn't change it. What comprehensive solution can possibly exist while Palestinians deny Israel's right to exist? I mean let's pretend that we worked out a 2 state solution in this fantasy scenario.... Do you think that suddenly, for the first time since the issue of Israel came up, Palestinians will be recognizing Israel's right to exist as a nation? Why? Because they're a friendly, reasonable, rational people? Well let's see... Israel continues to create settlements in Palestine territory....what's the logical conclusion there? Back to the anti-semitic memes huh? The Liberty is a favorite of neo nazis everywhere. It's a friendly fire incident....one of many that happen in every conflict, and one Israel has formally apologized and paid restitution for. Why bring it up? In theory, Israel could launch a nuke at a nearby neighboring region. The fallout to Israel though makes this a questionable last resort at best. So when that happens....get back to me. Whoa.... I see, so whomever is better at armed conflicts is [I][B]automatically wrong[/B][/I]. And you're questioning my logic. To eliminate a hostile enemy? Suppose Mexico started indiscriminately launching rockets at citizens in Texas, Arizona, California...because it used to be "their land"? What do you think our response would be?? Oopsies? Sorry Mexico....here's your land back? Sorry US citizens....pack up and move? What's your argument here lol? Well let's be honest....at no point has this neighbor ever recognized your right to exist. And he likely never will. Now what? Problems to work through.... I suppose that would be considered putting it mildly if you're a white landowner in S Africa afraid for their life. [/QUOTE]
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