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Halloween and "cultural appropriation".
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<blockquote data-quote="muichimotsu" data-source="post: 75539627" data-attributes="member: 149131"><p>Because white as the percentage of say 100K people is still more than the 17% of that which is black people, that's basic math, and I suck at math</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>Then you're, by your own admission, just maintaining the status quo and are making a claim that you have the onus on, because it isn't a particular negative, it's a universal one as applies to America as a whole. You seem to just think racism is some minor thing at best and would prefer to blame anything else because then you don't have to feel like a victim, because that would be "weak" or some nonsense that strikes me as some latent insecurities you have to posture otherwise to project onto others that they're the ones in the wrong. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You can't blatantly reject stereotypes because it points out a flaw in your argument, that's more goalpost shifting or special pleading. Why is this suddenly an exception to the rule? Stereotypes are not a good thing, even those that are positive in nature. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The idea that they shouldn't dress a certain way, or do their hair a certain way, that they shouldn't be overly angry or other stereotypical associations one makes with black people in the othering process. You really think there aren't black people that fit in better because they act more "white" even if it's merely based on social constructs and stereotypes of a behavior connected to an equally abstract racial group?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You can't fundamentally separate them, the system is conditioned by the culture, it isn't in a vacuum, you keep trying to spin things in a way that is untenable and unsubstantiated beyond your idealism. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And people who insist that the Confederacy was not racist. Do we agree the Confederacy was in fact racist in its founding even if I'll accept not all Southerners were racist then (I learned about a labor strike in the Appalachian region back in 1921 that had whites and blacks going up against the coal industry and unfortunately they failed, but it inspired others) or even are racist now?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You're skewing what counts, I didn't specify the ones I'm pretty sure you're referring to, the standard is not just California, Washington and Oregon, and even if we just count Pacific West, Alaska did go Trump, so you're technically wrong, let alone the Mountain states, which leaned fairly red, though even in 2016, I'll admit it was about 7 Blue and 5 Red, while this year was more blue than Red with Arizona's shift</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, socialism is already a thing in America, what you're criticizing is an extreme form, more in the vein of authoritarian or totalitarian ideals, not the socialist or capitalist distinction, among many others that come about in several different models. I don't think most people are advocating for outright communism, especially not as it manifested in Stalinist or Leninist Russia or Maoist China, among other places, but finding a happy balance rather than extremist nationalism, which I think we both thoroughly condemn, and I'd argue nationalism is thoroughly unpatriotic. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Racism is merely one form of prejudice, I acknowledge prejudice when I see it, it doesn't have to be racist to be condemned and it doesn't have to be something intentional, people can be ignorant in their racism, that's more often the case, if we're reasonably applying Hanlon's razor. I'm not claiming at all that these people are malicious, they're acting out of anger or disenfranchisement and that can appear on either side in various forms of prejudice</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Do you see stereotypes that you can bring up? The onus is on you in making a positive claim that white people are stereotyped the same way or in the same frequency. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No it doesn't, certainly not in an absolute sense: we have general ideas of what is considered a white person in terms of appearance, but we also consider that ethnicity is going to create distinctions. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That they're getting better treatment versus the negative stereotypes associated with Hispanics which a certain Republican in power decided to encourage and embolden racists who treat immigrants from Hispanic countries like trash, like they're just exploiting the system</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="muichimotsu, post: 75539627, member: 149131"] Because white as the percentage of say 100K people is still more than the 17% of that which is black people, that's basic math, and I suck at math Then you're, by your own admission, just maintaining the status quo and are making a claim that you have the onus on, because it isn't a particular negative, it's a universal one as applies to America as a whole. You seem to just think racism is some minor thing at best and would prefer to blame anything else because then you don't have to feel like a victim, because that would be "weak" or some nonsense that strikes me as some latent insecurities you have to posture otherwise to project onto others that they're the ones in the wrong. You can't blatantly reject stereotypes because it points out a flaw in your argument, that's more goalpost shifting or special pleading. Why is this suddenly an exception to the rule? Stereotypes are not a good thing, even those that are positive in nature. The idea that they shouldn't dress a certain way, or do their hair a certain way, that they shouldn't be overly angry or other stereotypical associations one makes with black people in the othering process. You really think there aren't black people that fit in better because they act more "white" even if it's merely based on social constructs and stereotypes of a behavior connected to an equally abstract racial group? You can't fundamentally separate them, the system is conditioned by the culture, it isn't in a vacuum, you keep trying to spin things in a way that is untenable and unsubstantiated beyond your idealism. And people who insist that the Confederacy was not racist. Do we agree the Confederacy was in fact racist in its founding even if I'll accept not all Southerners were racist then (I learned about a labor strike in the Appalachian region back in 1921 that had whites and blacks going up against the coal industry and unfortunately they failed, but it inspired others) or even are racist now? You're skewing what counts, I didn't specify the ones I'm pretty sure you're referring to, the standard is not just California, Washington and Oregon, and even if we just count Pacific West, Alaska did go Trump, so you're technically wrong, let alone the Mountain states, which leaned fairly red, though even in 2016, I'll admit it was about 7 Blue and 5 Red, while this year was more blue than Red with Arizona's shift No, socialism is already a thing in America, what you're criticizing is an extreme form, more in the vein of authoritarian or totalitarian ideals, not the socialist or capitalist distinction, among many others that come about in several different models. I don't think most people are advocating for outright communism, especially not as it manifested in Stalinist or Leninist Russia or Maoist China, among other places, but finding a happy balance rather than extremist nationalism, which I think we both thoroughly condemn, and I'd argue nationalism is thoroughly unpatriotic. Racism is merely one form of prejudice, I acknowledge prejudice when I see it, it doesn't have to be racist to be condemned and it doesn't have to be something intentional, people can be ignorant in their racism, that's more often the case, if we're reasonably applying Hanlon's razor. I'm not claiming at all that these people are malicious, they're acting out of anger or disenfranchisement and that can appear on either side in various forms of prejudice Do you see stereotypes that you can bring up? The onus is on you in making a positive claim that white people are stereotyped the same way or in the same frequency. No it doesn't, certainly not in an absolute sense: we have general ideas of what is considered a white person in terms of appearance, but we also consider that ethnicity is going to create distinctions. That they're getting better treatment versus the negative stereotypes associated with Hispanics which a certain Republican in power decided to encourage and embolden racists who treat immigrants from Hispanic countries like trash, like they're just exploiting the system [/QUOTE]
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