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Halloween and "cultural appropriation".
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<blockquote data-quote="muichimotsu" data-source="post: 75522100" data-attributes="member: 149131"><p>So you're admitting you misspoke before?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Because I'm a pasty privileged white guy who doesn't know their way around the city: literally, I've probably only been in cities 10% of my life, lived in suburban or rural areas most of the time</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The problem fundamentally is what you consider privilege and whether it's overly reductionist or considers that me not being financially privileged does not mean I'm not privileged in other fashions</p><p></p><p></p><p>If people are ignorant about that, that isn't an excuse to act like they're the victim, especially if they were inconvenienced for one day as the story seems to suggest. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah, nice try white knighting for white people, that's not how this works. A private campus has more leeway to begin with, same as a church that doesn't want to marry an interracial couple in this day and age. Sure, this one is state sponsored, it's certainly contentious, I'm not saying I absolutely support it, we'd need more information that what your article appears to give</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Slavery was a product OF racism, it didn't exist in a vacuum. And the 3/5 compromise was in a time when slavery was accepted, which by your own admission, is racist, so the 3/5 compromise cannot be said to not be racist by a basic association</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah, and conveniently, it's just black families that seem to suffer the most on this, while white kids can get help and move on to success, while black families are left in the dust by welfare cuts. This isn't an either/or solution, policies that disproportionately affect black people are enabling systemic racism even if the intent is to try and "help" people regardless of race</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Supporting roles in entertainment at large, why is that so obtuse to you?</p><p>Roles in terms of a job are totally different in terms of the regard, even if there can be an issue as to black people, especially in many areas, being relegated to service jobs because they can't even get a foot in the door for anything more impressive. </p><p></p><p>Sure, my alma mater has a black vice chancellor, but pretty sure he's the FIRST, and the university only integrated about 55 years ago, just a bit before my county's schools finally integrated in spite of their own Confederate sympathies that thought it was fine the way it was. He likely had some amount of privilege, but that doesn't mean he had it easy by any means as a black man in America</p><p></p><p>Black people being a minority does not mean they cannot be disproportionately affected by the white majority, that's ignoring the problems in societal biases with a cultural hegemony from white people historically as the absolute majority (how many black people do you think were here in 1776 versus today?)</p><p></p><p>Seeing black people everyday is not a privilege everyone has, you seem to think black people's distribution and demographics is even, but I'm pretty sure it's not remotely.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="muichimotsu, post: 75522100, member: 149131"] So you're admitting you misspoke before? Because I'm a pasty privileged white guy who doesn't know their way around the city: literally, I've probably only been in cities 10% of my life, lived in suburban or rural areas most of the time The problem fundamentally is what you consider privilege and whether it's overly reductionist or considers that me not being financially privileged does not mean I'm not privileged in other fashions If people are ignorant about that, that isn't an excuse to act like they're the victim, especially if they were inconvenienced for one day as the story seems to suggest. Yeah, nice try white knighting for white people, that's not how this works. A private campus has more leeway to begin with, same as a church that doesn't want to marry an interracial couple in this day and age. Sure, this one is state sponsored, it's certainly contentious, I'm not saying I absolutely support it, we'd need more information that what your article appears to give Slavery was a product OF racism, it didn't exist in a vacuum. And the 3/5 compromise was in a time when slavery was accepted, which by your own admission, is racist, so the 3/5 compromise cannot be said to not be racist by a basic association Yeah, and conveniently, it's just black families that seem to suffer the most on this, while white kids can get help and move on to success, while black families are left in the dust by welfare cuts. This isn't an either/or solution, policies that disproportionately affect black people are enabling systemic racism even if the intent is to try and "help" people regardless of race Supporting roles in entertainment at large, why is that so obtuse to you? Roles in terms of a job are totally different in terms of the regard, even if there can be an issue as to black people, especially in many areas, being relegated to service jobs because they can't even get a foot in the door for anything more impressive. Sure, my alma mater has a black vice chancellor, but pretty sure he's the FIRST, and the university only integrated about 55 years ago, just a bit before my county's schools finally integrated in spite of their own Confederate sympathies that thought it was fine the way it was. He likely had some amount of privilege, but that doesn't mean he had it easy by any means as a black man in America Black people being a minority does not mean they cannot be disproportionately affected by the white majority, that's ignoring the problems in societal biases with a cultural hegemony from white people historically as the absolute majority (how many black people do you think were here in 1776 versus today?) Seeing black people everyday is not a privilege everyone has, you seem to think black people's distribution and demographics is even, but I'm pretty sure it's not remotely. [/QUOTE]
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