Hal Lindsey & TBN

[TheScottsMen]

So what does everyone think about the issue with Hal Lindsey and TBN? If you have not heard, he was asked to water down his TV show due to his pro-Israel and anti-Islam program. He said he could not, and was asked to leave.

If you don't know, Hal Lindsey is the author who wrote "The Late Great Planet Earth." I believe him to be a Acts 2 Dispensationalist, and though I do not agree with him on many thingsm he seems like a decent guy.

 

[eph3Nine]

So what does everyone think about the issue with Hal Lindsey and TBN? If you have not heard, he was asked to water down his TV show due to his pro-Israel and anti-Islam program. He said he could not, and was asked to leave.

If you don't know, Hal Lindsey is the author who wrote "The Late Great Planet Earth." I believe him to be a Acts 2 Dispensationalist, and though I do not agree with him on many thingsm he seems like a decent guy.

Seems like a decent guy, but is not mid acts. So He doesnt see the difference in Israels program and the Body of Christ. No distinction between earthly and heavenly.

I used to read his stuff religiously. No longer. He doesnt know what hes talkin about because he doesnt distinguish between Israel and US.

Hey, right division will tell you more than Hal Lindsay even dreamed of knowing. And it is really exciting.

Dont get me started on the "blab it and grab it" TBN channel.....OEY VAY!!!

 

[Soon Rev 22:11-12]

There's already a thread on this somewhere.

He's a false prophet and TBN would do well to rid 99% of its programming.

 

[TheScottsMen]

There's already a thread on this somewhere.

He's a false prophet and TBN would do well to rid 99% of its programming.

Does he ever claim to be a prophet? Or is this a blind statement? I know Hal is made many false predictions, but has he ever claimed to be a prophet?

 

[Psalms34]

Yeah he is a pretty good guy, I’ve met him a few times and he often comes to my Church to fill in for our Senior Pastor when he’s off on mission trips. No he does not claim to be a prophet nor does he claim that God told him things that will come to pass (as many of those jokers on tbn do A LOT), it’s his interpretation of scripture compared to these times that has gotten him in a bit of hot water with some. Some people really hate Dispe’s and jump at the chance to criticize every point. I think those people are going to be in for a surprise when the stuff hit’s the fan.

Anyhoot, he has had a lot of problems with the tbn’ers over the years, they really don’t care for him much but the viewers insisted he be let back last time they kicked him off for talking against the false teachers on TBN. He toned it down so they let him back, now they are just looking for an excuse to get rid of him again. I mean really, TBN just needs to suck it up and let him back on, TBN is not the new Israel as they like to believe they are.

 

[eph3Nine]

Neither TBN nor Hal Lindsay is teaching Pauls gospel as the criteria for salvation today, but a mixed bag of tricks, which in the long run only confuses instead of EDIFYING the Body.

Both of em ought to get OFF the air, and back into their bibles rightly divided.

 

[TheScottsMen]

I mean really, TBN just needs to suck it up and let him back on, TBN is not the new Israel as they like to believe they are.

I would agree with you brother. Also, if I'm not mistaken, his TV program had the highest ratings of all TBN shows?



Blessings,



TSM

 

[Psalms34]

Neither TBN nor Hal Lindsay is teaching Pauls gospel as the criteria for salvation today, ...

The gospel of Paul? Paul Crouch? Or are you referring to Apostle Paul which has his own gospel? Do you have a different meathead for salvation than the rest of us do? Lindsey is very Orthodox in his views. Maybe you are referring to a Hal Lindsay and not the Hal Lindsey we are mentioning?

 

[Psalms34]

Ok here is what Hal has to say about it all:
http://www.hallindseyoracle.com/articles.asp?ArticleID=12286

 

[eph3Nine]

The gospel of Paul? Paul Crouch? Or are you referring to Apostle Paul which has his own gospel? Do you have a different meathead for salvation than the rest of us do? Lindsey is very Orthodox in his views. Maybe you are referring to a Hal Lindsay and not the Hal Lindsey we are mentioning?

Pauls gospel, the one in the bible who is OUR apostle....

I may have spelled Hal's last name incorrectly, but hes the one that wrote all the prophecy books of which "The Late , Great, Planet earth " was one. He is orthodox only in the sense that he agrees with the majority of professing Christendom today that the church the Body of Christ began at Pentecost and he doesnt teach (he may SEE it, but Ive not seen it in any of his teaching) the distinctiveness of the message and ministry of Paul to we the Body of Christ. He thinks we are still in the age of PROPHECY and scripture tells us that we arent. The MYSTERY is the name of the game in this dispensation of the GRACE of God. So, much of what he teaches is like a round peg being forced into a square hole. I used to really LOVE listening to him, but since discovering how to rightly divide my Bible, its made things alot more interesting as well as factual.

 

[Psalms34]

Age of Prophecy? I have no definition for this dispensation you mention, it does not exist. I can’t fit your mention that Hal does not teach salvation by the context you are presenting. Maybe this will help? http://www.hallindseyoracle.com/4steps.asp

 

[eph3Nine]

Age of Prophecy? I have no definition for this dispensation you mention, it does not exist. I can’t fit your mention that Hal does not teach salvation by the context you are presenting. Maybe this will help? http://www.hallindseyoracle.com/4steps.asp

Let me word it this way, Hal thinks that God is still in the Prophetic Program and doesn't make room for Pauls epistles or the MYSTERY truths. While I will admit that certain events taking place today will certainly lead UP to the fulfillment of the prophetic promises made to Israel, we are NOT in the prophetic program today. The timeclock has STOPPED on Israels prophetic program and a new one began....The MYSTERY. God will again resume the prophetic calendar with the nation Israel, but it will happen in the future, AFTER we the Body of Christ are raptured. He mixes it all together. Hal may very well believe in the gospel of OUR salvation, but the thrust of his teaching is prophetic by nature and I never hear him preaching the MYSTERY truths. I wonder why?

 

[biblebeliever123]

I did go to the website given in previous post. As a believer I could understand what Hal was saying, but he really did not give a complete gospel message. He mentioned the death of Christ but failed to bring in his burial and resurrection. Why that may seem minor to some... it is definitely part of the gospel message we are to BELIEVE in order to be saved.

1 Corinthians 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;1 Corinthians 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Romans 4:25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.

As a believer I think it's very important to present a clear gospel message and make it plain what Christ accomplished for us through his death, burial, and resurrection. It's a complete finished crosswork and it's important to present it as such.

 

[Psalms34]

Let me word it this way, Hal thinks that God is still in the Prophetic Program and doesn't make room for Pauls epistles or the MYSTERY truths. While I will admit that certain events taking place today will certainly lead UP to the fulfillment of the prophetic promises made to Israel, we are NOT in the prophetic program today. The timeclock has STOPPED on Israels prophetic program and a new one began....The MYSTERY. God will again resume the prophetic calendar with the nation Israel, but it will happen in the future, AFTER we the Body of Christ are raptured. He mixes it all together. Hal may very well believe in the gospel of OUR salvation, but the thrust of his teaching is prophetic by nature and I never hear him preaching the MYSTERY truths. I wonder why?

What does that have to do with salvation?? You just disagree with his interpretations concerning prophecy(what you know of it). Hal actually teaches on other things such as faith, salvation and a host of other topics (Combat Faith is a great book), people only know him for prophecy (of what they know) because that’s all they want to hear and criticize by their own interpretations. Hal and the TBN teachers are not one and the same, some of the TBN teachers are way out there and many (including myself) believe that they teach another gospel in the sense that it is apart from salvation by the gospel of Jesus Christ. I think it's good that Hal gets off TBN, I hope TBN falls and never gets up, seriously.

 

[eph3Nine]

What does that have to do with salvation?? You just disagree with his interpretations concerning prophecy(what you know of it). Hal actually teaches on other things such as faith, salvation and a host of other topics (Combat Faith is a great book), people only know him for prophecy (of what they know) because that’s all they want to hear and criticize by their own interpretations. Hal and the TBN teachers are not one and the same, some of the TBN teachers are way out there and many (including myself) believe that they teach another gospel in the sense that it is apart from salvation by the gospel of Jesus Christ. I think it's good that Hal gets off TBN, I hope TBN falls and never gets up, seriously.

The gospel of our salvation isnt found in the prophetic books, but in Pauls epistles. I used to BE a real prophecy buff...until I realized that we are no longer in that program. I know that he teaches on other things, which is why I would be careful in listening to what he has to say. If he doesnt know that prophecy isnt what God is doing today, I would assume he may be confused as to how a person is saved..but I might be wrong.

I too, would like to see TBN go off the air. They are involved in Israels program as well and seem to think that the signs and wonders attached to that program are theirs to take advantage of as well...and that couldnt be farther from the truth. Its difficult to cooperate with God when one is not aware of Gods purpose and plan for this dispensation of Gods GRACE.

 

[JContinuum]

The gospel of our salvation isnt found in the prophetic books, but in Pauls epistles. I used to BE a real prophecy buff...until I realized that we are no longer in that program. I know that he teaches on other things, which is why I would be careful in listening to what he has to say. If he doesnt know that prophecy isnt what God is doing today, I would assume he may be confused as to how a person is saved..but I might be wrong.

I too, would like to see TBN go off the air. They are involved in Israels program as well and seem to think that the signs and wonders attached to that program are theirs to take advantage of as well...and that couldnt be farther from the truth. Its difficult to cooperate with God when one is not aware of Gods purpose and plan for this dispensation of Gods GRACE.

Much of TBN, if not all, is not preaching Christ Crucified, I used to watch Hal but that was a long time ago.

Copy and paste from http://www.omegaletter.com/

Bottom line? TBN’s head of programming, Jan Crouch, demanded that he adopt a politically-correct attitude regarding Islam so as not to 'offend' them by reporting what the Koran really teaches.

Given the choice between compromise and maintaining a comfortable position in his old age, Hal cast his future on the Lord's shoulders, packed his bags, and stepped out into the unknown – at age 76!

What now for the IIB? Hal told me last night that we have a time slot on the Day Star network. We have rented a studio to produce our own program called 'The Hal Lindsey Report' and will shoot our first program at the end of January. I will give you firm times and dates when I have them.

 

[Psalms34]

The gospel of our salvation isnt found in the prophetic books, but in Pauls epistles. I used to BE a real prophecy buff...until I realized that we are no longer in that program. I know that he teaches on other things, which is why I would be careful in listening to what he has to say. If he doesnt know that prophecy isnt what God is doing today, I would assume he may be confused as to how a person is saved..but I might be wrong.

So in other words, if someone does not hold to your particular view on Prophecy, they may not be saved, possibly?

 

[Psalms34]

Much of TBN, if not all, is not preaching Christ Crucified, I used to watch Hal but that was a long time ago.

Copy and paste from http://www.omegaletter.com/

Bottom line? TBN’s head of programming, Jan Crouch, demanded that he adopt a politically-correct attitude regarding Islam so as not to 'offend' them by reporting what the Koran really teaches.

Given the choice between compromise and maintaining a comfortable position in his old age, Hal cast his future on the Lord's shoulders, packed his bags, and stepped out into the unknown – at age 76!

What now for the IIB? Hal told me last night that we have a time slot on the Day Star network. We have rented a studio to produce our own program called 'The Hal Lindsey Report' and will shoot our first program at the end of January. I will give you firm times and dates when I have them.

http://www.hallindseyoracle.com/articles.asp?ArticleID=12327 So I HAVE NOT agreed to come back on TBN. I will be on DayStar Christian Network on Sundays at 10:30pm Central time and 8:30pm Pacific time, etc., beginning hopefully on January 29th. In addition, it appears that I will also have a slot on Sky Angel Network.

 

[JContinuum]

So in other words,

You mean in your words? I do know Eph3nine but it seems his/her faith is based on 1cor 1:23 which is Gospel and found over and over in the Epistles.


He sheep hear his voice!

 

[Psalms34]

You mean in your words? I do know Eph3nine but it seems his/her faith is based on 1cor 1:23 which is Gospel and found over and over in the Epistles.

Hey, I’m not the one stirring it up here, it’s easy to conclude from the statement what was meant or could be understood as to mean. It’s just silly meaningless attacks and getting irritating. If you have something constructive to add then say it, JC.

peace out