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Although I am not a Christian, I think it probably would be. If there's a security system on a server and you hack into it, that's, more or less, trespassing. And since it's not really your property...
If you are referring to cracking, however, (which is the more harmful version of hacking, in which servers and websites are crashed or harmfully altered, and other harmful) then almost certainly yes.
If you are referring to cracking, however, (which is the more harmful version of hacking, in which servers and websites are crashed or harmfully altered, and other harmful) then almost certainly yes.
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No, hacking is not a sin. Cracking might be a sin.
BTW, if you wanna test your hacking skills, there are some hacking game sites, where they have progressively harder stages, and on each stage, you need to try to figure out the password there. I like http://resistor.topgamers.net/ but it's pretty hard. http://www.try2hack.nl/ is a bit easier.
BTW, if you wanna test your hacking skills, there are some hacking game sites, where they have progressively harder stages, and on each stage, you need to try to figure out the password there. I like http://resistor.topgamers.net/ but it's pretty hard. http://www.try2hack.nl/ is a bit easier.
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I think you are really confused about what 'hacking' is. Google 'difference hack* crack*' or something like that to get the terms straight.
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Both hacking and cracking is a sin. Both involve doing something you know you shouldn't be doing and someone else suffers directly or indirectly from it. Now if you want to test hacking for the purpose of implementing security on your network/server, in essence hacking yourself or practice for learning purposes only, then the 2 links posted by Dracil should do.
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Hacking doesn't cause the person to suffer. It actually benefits them. The mentality behind hacking and cracking is different, in that when cracking, you actually have a malicious intent, while with hacking, you don't do stuff after you compromise their system, and you let the sysadmins know that their systems were compromised.
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hacking does it depends on what you hack and what you do some people pay for so many logins a month to certin things lol sometimes it makes people lose money or pay more
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Hacking, I.E. Figuring out how software or computers opperate is not a sin, you can Hack your own systems, and that is perfictly legal (For now)
The thing is the term Hacking has changed , and now most people concider only the Negitive media image of hacking, not the true root of hacking, for example code writing is also concidered a form of hacking.
The thing is the term Hacking has changed , and now most people concider only the Negitive media image of hacking, not the true root of hacking, for example code writing is also concidered a form of hacking.
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the key question is... is it illeagal, if its illegal then we dileberatly ignore the govt, in which god installed and told us to obey (unless it contradicts god) then its a sin.
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If the government says its illegal to worship, do you obey? What about protesting? It's civil disobedience. But it's also what the US government is founded on (freedom).
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In my opinion, hacking is not a problem if no damage is done. However, the law states different, but i dont think that the government is always right just because it was installed under God. After all, there was a government at a time that persecuted christians.
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d0c markus
The harvest is plentiful, but the laborers are few
read what i said more closely.Dracil said:
the key question is... is it illeagal, if its illegal then we dileberatly ignore the govt, in which god installed and told us to obey (unless it contradicts god) then its a sin.
and please dont equate hacking with worship, or base following a govt on that principal.
take care.
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Er.
Once again, I think the distinction between hacking and cracking is important here.
FWIW, I think system security is boring, but many people would consider me a hacker. I don't break into stuff. (Actually, I have had to bypass security on my own systems a handful of times, but it's not real cracking, just finding stupid exploits.)
In general, I think breaking into other peoples' computers is clearly wrong, whether or not you're "doing damage".
Once again, I think the distinction between hacking and cracking is important here.
FWIW, I think system security is boring, but many people would consider me a hacker. I don't break into stuff. (Actually, I have had to bypass security on my own systems a handful of times, but it's not real cracking, just finding stupid exploits.)
In general, I think breaking into other peoples' computers is clearly wrong, whether or not you're "doing damage".
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Fac3less said:
Well, as an example, once the nice folks at my upstream replaced my border router. Only they misconfigured it. Only they forgot to give me the new "root" password.
But lo and behold, ascend are a bunch of morons, and the unprivileged user interface lets you save settings via tftp, and the password is saved in clear text.
That kind of thing.
I'd much rather spend my time designing things than playing security games.
Annoyingly, I get a couple-few emails a week from people who want me to break into email accounts for 'em.
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