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Grove City College

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Grove City college is a church related college with a very low price tag, hence, a large number of applicants and they get to pick and choose and so their admission standards are fairly high. It is a right-leaning school that desires it's students to meet a certain profile as welll as have good grades with some Christian faculty and more Christian students, but I would not classify it as a Christian school since faculty are not all Christians (I've heard some horror stories from alum and students).

The population of students of color is tiny - last time I asked, you could use one hand to count them.

I also think their education is over-rated. They admit good students, but they don't do very much with them while they have them. The college does not send faculty to professional development conferences, so it is harder for them to stay abreast of their fields and to network with colleagues.

If your bent is conservative and you like to conform, you will probably like Grove City College.
 
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I wouldn't shed such a dim light on GCC. I feel like bliz did this by saying "if you like to conform". I can't say it's never true, but it sounds pretty negative :)

I've had quite a few friends attend GCC and adore it. No bad feedback from them yet.
GCC has many majors, perks, and activities. It's not too big. I hear it isn't too far from big cities with lots of activities. I also hear they have tons of dorm spirit and so living in a dorm is actually a community experience. I didn't get much of this at my college, so I admire it greatly.
 
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bliz said:
Grove City college is a church related college with a very low price tag, hence, a large number of applicants and they get to pick and choose and so their admission standards are fairly high. It is a right-leaning school that desires it's students to meet a certain profile as welll as have good grades with some Christian faculty and more Christian students, but I would not classify it as a Christian school since faculty are not all Christians (I've heard some horror stories from alum and students).

The population of students of color is tiny - last time I asked, you could use one hand to count them.

I also think their education is over-rated. They admit good students, but they don't do very much with them while they have them. The college does not send faculty to professional development conferences, so it is harder for them to stay abreast of their fields and to network with colleagues.

If your bent is conservative and you like to conform, you will probably like Grove City College.
I'm one of the ones who didn't like it. I got kicked out....for walking out of class! It is a Christian college, but what kind of Christianity, well that I don't know.
 
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I live fairly nearby, know many current and former students and faculty and administrators. I would not classify Grove City as a Christian college. There are Christian faculty members and many students are Christian, but it takes far more than that to make a place a Christian college.
 
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You hear horror stories about every school. Grove City College does not have any boxes that require students to check "I am a Christian" on the application, if that is what you require a Christian school to have. Otherwise, the whopping majority of students are Christian, as well as faculty. And their mission statement I've included at the bottom is pretty Christian-centered.

I have heard of one other experience in which a student didn't like Grove City, but all the students I have talked to have called it really the best time of their lives. And they do have a really strong engineering program, which is what I am going into.

As for the person who got kicked out for walking out of class, maybe that is one negative experience. We also are given absolutely no details about what happened, but gcc isn't for everyone I guess.

About Bliz's comments, everyone is entitled to your opinion. But professional development conferences? What does that matter? I don't know of any mandatory teacher conferences that aren't a general waste of time. But they do have a tiny amount of minority students. Just remember to look around at what the students who go their think, most seem to adore it. Not all do. Some undoubtedly hate it.

Of course the students who do stay are bound to like it, so maybe talking to current students won't give you a good view of those who don't. But those who stay, in my research, anyway, seem to like it. And those who stay all four years is a high percentage.

Not sure why it would be called a "conformist" type of school.

Mission Statement:
Since its founding in 1876, Grove City College, committed to Christian principles, has striven to be equal in academic quality to the finest four-year colleges. It seeks to provide liberal and professional education of the highest quality that is within reach of families with modest means who desire a college which will strengthen their children's spiritual and moral character. When the college was chartered, a broad, Christian-based cultural consensus prevailed in America. By charter, the doors of the college were open to qualified students "without regard to religious test or belief." The founders of Grove City College, consciously avoiding narrow sectarianism, held a vision of Christian society transcending denomination, creeds, and confessions. They were committed to the advancement of free enterprise, civil and religious liberty, representative government, arts and letters, and science and technology. Believing that the fruits of civilization would be destroyed if the religious and ethical roots were allowed to wither, the founders intended that the claims of Christ as God and Savior and of inspired Scripture be presented to all. They hoped that through its program of intellectual, moral, and spiritual education, Grove City College would produce your leaders, whatever their creed or confession, capable of pushing civilization forward on every frontier. Grove City College remains true to the vision of its founders. Rejecting relativism and secularism, it fosters intellectual, moral, spiritual, and social development consistent with a commitment to Christian truth, morals, and freedom. Rather than political, ideological, or philosophical agendas, objective truth continues as the goal of liberal learning. The core of the curriculum, particularly in the humanities, consists of books, thinkers, and ideas proven across the ages to be of value in the quest for knowledge. Intellectual inquiry remains open to the questions religion raises and affirms the answers Christianity offers. The ethical absolutes of the Ten Commandments and Christ's moral teachings guide the effort to develop intellect and character in the classroom, chapel, and co-curricular activities. And while many points of view are examined, the college unapologetically advocates preservation of America's religious, political, and economic heritage of individual freedom and responsibility.
 
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About Bliz's comments, everyone is entitled to your opinion. But professional development conferences? What does that matter? I don't know of any mandatory teacher conferences that aren't a general waste of time.

There is a considerable difference between a professional development conference and a "teacher's conference". Faculty members are usually fairly eager to go to a conference that they choose to attend that meets a need they have or one that explores a field that is new to them.

If faculty members are not in touch with their peers and colleagues in their respective fields they are missing out on so much. Every field of study has changes and developments in it and conferences are a great way to stay on top of the field and to meet colleagues with whom they can discuss issues throughout the year.

Do you think that engineering has changed much in the last decade? Computer science? What about the use of new tools that can English teachers can use to spot plagerism? Any new developments in forensic science? Chemistry? Has a colleague developed a great way to teach humanities that could be adopted on another campus? Are there new things to know about advising students as they prepare for grad school or professional schools?

It is one thing to be well educated in an field; it is another to remain well educated in that field.
 
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AdamA said:
You hear horror stories about every school. Grove City College does not have any boxes that require students to check "I am a Christian" on the application, if that is what you require a Christian school to have. Otherwise, the whopping majority of students are Christian, as well as faculty. And their mission statement I've included at the bottom is pretty Christian-centered.

I have heard of one other experience in which a student didn't like Grove City, but all the students I have talked to have called it really the best time of their lives. And they do have a really strong engineering program, which is what I am going into.

As for the person who got kicked out for walking out of class, maybe that is one negative experience. We also are given absolutely no details about what happened, but gcc isn't for everyone I guess.

About Bliz's comments, everyone is entitled to your opinion. But professional development conferences? What does that matter? I don't know of any mandatory teacher conferences that aren't a general waste of time. But they do have a tiny amount of minority students. Just remember to look around at what the students who go their think, most seem to adore it. Not all do. Some undoubtedly hate it.

Of course the students who do stay are bound to like it, so maybe talking to current students won't give you a good view of those who don't. But those who stay, in my research, anyway, seem to like it. And those who stay all four years is a high percentage.

Not sure why it would be called a "conformist" type of school.

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Actually, there was little more detail than what I gave you. My teacher kept insulting me in class. I got tired of it, I walked out. She called me in for a conference, we got in an argument, and she persuaded the school to kick me out, without even the benefit of the trial that I was legally entitled to by the school (The school administrator told me I'd be found guilty, even though the trial\hearing hadn't even begun). Somehow, I don't see that as fair.
 
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