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I`m not too big on Jesus' pictures although as I understand it most Jesus' pictures are based on the image on the shroud. The shroud may in fact be real in my opinion, if it is the pictures could portray what Jesus really looked like.
Not an analogy, just stating a fact.
Based on your interpretation of the Scriptures, you would have removed all the images in the temple, many of which were "graven images". According to your interpretation, God instructed the Jews to break one of the 10 commandments multiple times when decorating the temple. Is that what you believe?
It was worshiped as a representative of the god it represented. It was a channel, a physical touchstone to bring the worshiper closer to the god it represented, and to bring the god closer to the worshiper. As I pointed out earlier, God said we were not to worship Him like that. It's a pagan practice, and not of God. We are privileged to come directly to our God either to worship or petition Him. Jesus Himself told the Samaritan woman we would worship Him "in spirit and in truth." Our faith should obviate the need of a physical representation to come before His presence. Now, do I believe what I say?
Well, actions speak louder ... . When I became convicted of this I destroyed about $300.00 worth of leather stamps. I used to make leather cases and tool bags for people. I could carve, but didn't really like it. So I traded a belt tool holder for a press and invested in a lot of stamps they could choose from. But I threw them out, along with several things I had made. One was a round waterproof case with a large, beautiful Thunderbird carved on it. Others just had stamps which I defaced. The stamps left raised images of things they should not have, so both stamp and the item had to go. And that was just the beginning- medals and devices from my military service, items from my service with the ambulance crew which had the Staff of Asclepius emblem- I had a really good but complex belt tool holder that I used for light veterinary work with livestock after they said no more leather on ambulances. But it had the emblem, so I defaced it. That was hard, because even after hard use it was a very nice piece of work. But since faith without works is dead, I did it. You get the picture. I do believe, and act on that belief, even though it cost me in those and many more ways.
Worship as you like, but you are bringing "strange fire" before the Lord when you incorporate idolatry into your service. And it is sin to do so in everyday life. God said so through His prophet Moses. If that doesn't convince you then who am I to say thee nay? Go for it; do as you please. But trying to convince me is a waste of time, I promise.
One would think someone who's Messianic would already be up to speed regarding the Jewish roots of Christian worship.
"And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:" John 3:14
One would think that, but I am not surprised. Once in a while, I meet one that impresses me, but most of the time not. The movement according to Church history standards is extremely recent, and most are really Protestants as far as their background and thinking underneath with a thin coat of Jewish paint.
I might be older than it is.
The Shroud of Turin is most likely a medieval forgery. Most images of Jesus are based on the 6th century Icon of Christ Pantokrator.
-CryptoLutheran
why are there falsely so many unbiblical graven images of Jesus in so called church buildings, online, in memes, and wherever else that has Jesus as white with long blonde/gold hair (long hair is a sin for a man 1 Corinthians 11:14)
yet when it comes to images of Jesus so many people still falsely use unbiblical images of a made up Jesus online and this is falsely accepted that Jesus was white blonde long hair. why?
how do we know what Jesus looked like?
even if there is a true and accurate depiction out there among the thousands that is still a violation of Gods written commands to use any depiction of Jesus any color, race, ethnicity it is all a sin, graven image and idolatry, and very offensive.
The Greek word "κομα" refers not simply to long hair, but hair that has been styled or ornamented. Whereas it was common for women to have braided or elaborately styled hair, it was not something that men would do as it was considered a feminine trait.(long hair is a sin for a man 1 Corinthians 11:14)
Really? Which pope, and when?
Yeah. Can't celebrate the coming of God Incarnate, the Savior of Humanity, the Creator of the Universe, as though it was something special. We should follow the example of the non-Christian world and ignore it. Right?
May have looked kinda like this, you reckon? View attachment 316127
Do you have pictures of your family or friends? Is that a graven image as insult to God because they are made in the image and likeness of God?
Icons and statues reminds us of heavenly things.
The Shroud of Turin is most likely a medieval forgery. Most images of Jesus are based on the 6th century Icon of Christ Pantokrator.
-CryptoLutheran
Well it took a while, but I found something I was look for in reference to the stuff going on in the thread, saint Isaac's (the Syrian / of Nineveh) writing about traditional Christian liturgical practice written because of the heretical gnostic sect of the Messalians, who often seem a lot like some radical Protestants (especially antisacramental Charismatics)!
Messalianism - OrthodoxWiki
https://jbburnett.com/resources/alfeyev_prayer-in-isaac-syr.pdf
The author of that work, Metropolitan Hilarion Alfeyev, is also a brilliant composer, and is in charge of managing the ecumenical relations of the Russian Orthodox Church.
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