That IS the original "Marriage" lol. Here is the most beautiful wedding ceremony I know of. (Notice no 'government' or any "man" replaces God in this marriage);Did anyone here consider or do a govt free marriage. Is this becomming more and more accepted socially and in most churches?
The gov't does not require a couple to be civilly married. The gov't offers it along with various benefits (and restrictions, associated with the license) if a couple should so choose to be civilly married. In the same way, the Roman Catholic Church does not require couples to embrace their holy matrimony. The RCC offers it along with various benefits and restrictions as well if they should so choose holy matrimony in their church.Someone on hear argued that we should be "government married" because Peter and Paul said to obey the laws of the nation... Which implies that having a religious only marriage would in some way be illegal and it is not, therefore I think that argument is entirely besides the point ...
If a couple wants to be married in the eyes of God and their community, making a real commitment to each other, I don't see any reason why not. In fact, I think that, as the governments become more and more hostile towards fundamental Christians, the Body of Christ might find that it is neccessary (gasp) to operate on their own, aside from the government. Without breaking reasonable laws, of course. For example, if every pastor who refuses to marry homosexual couples is officially banned from preforming legal marriages in the U.S., I would most definitly still let my pastor marry me and I would happily wave bye-bye to my government legal status of marriage. In the end, the Kingdom governement is all that matters.
But your conscience can be clear before God if your marriage is as Isaac and Rebekah's marriage, you can be sure.
Having a successful marriage has nothing to do with a marriage license and the state’s involvement in your personal relationships.
And since we are told multiple times in scripture to obey the laws of the land ........ their eyes carry it according to scripture.No, there is only no marriage in the eyes of the state.
Of course, it is required to obey the law if you so desire a civil marriage.And since we are told multiple times in scripture to obey the laws of the land ........ their eyes carry it according to scripture.
ananda said: ↑
No, there is only no marriage in the eyes of the state.
By Dave
And since we are told multiple times in scripture to obey the laws of the land ........ their eyes carry it according to scripture.
Of course they do. But messing up royally in one point does not invalidate other points. Remember the leaders of the Temple told the disciples to no longer teach in the Name of the Lord. But they did. However, that did not stop them from going to the temple every day and even Paul from participating in temple worship years (perhaps decades) later.Some states allow a minor girl to get an abortion without the parents’ consent (see below). Dave the state is not infallible and is not the standard for interpersonal spiritual affairs.
s to child custody, I grew up in an era where in a marital breakup the children were given to the mother no matter what; with the possible exceptions of her being insane and about to be committed to an institution or she was accused of mass or serial murders.
Very interesting topic! What would a church free marriage look like? Seems to me that government marriages are nothing but legal agreements to join health insurance, share bills, be with them in hospitals, be a parent to adopted kids, beat each other up, what else did I leave out, etc. What's all this have to do with Christian marriages?Did anyone here consider or do a govt free marriage. Is this becomming more and more accepted socially and in most churches?
How is this different from "You have to buy health insurance" or "You have to have a permit to carry a gun" or "You have to have a license to drive" or ... ?If the government makes a law that says "You have to drive a green 1974 Chevy Vega", that's not something the government has the authority to tell you to do. You have no obligation to follow that law.
On what basis do you say the government lacks authority in this case? Does owning or driving a green Vega cause us to violate scripture?If the government makes a law that says "You have to drive a green 1974 Chevy Vega", that's not something the government has the authority to tell you to do. You have no obligation to follow that law.
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