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Good worker, bad recommendation.

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Under what circumstances would you give a good worker a bad recommendation?

IMHO...

If a person was a good worker, yet was quite offensive, belligerent, etc, I would give them a bad rec. regardless of the good work.
 
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Under what circumstances would you give a good worker a bad recommendation?

Under the circumstances where it's an alternate reality version of me that doesn't know how to produce a recommendation that covers all relevant aspects of an employees performance.
 
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I believe its important to give a fair report. We would want the same for ourselves and as an employer.

This means being balanced in our expressions. Praise what is good and be tactful about unpleasantness. When in doubt write it out. If it sounds unfair or harsh it probably is.
 
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Possibly, a worker is being considered for advancement. But he or she is not suited for it.

Also, someone might be very kind and pleasant, but unable to communicate for a different job in order to do it right. The person could be at one's limits but doing very well.
 
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I had a situation like this. An employee had good report with most but she was not a good worker. I talked to my Supervisor about it and wise as she was she told me that that same person may excel in another position so tread lightly. And so, A future supervisor for that person asked me for a recommendation of that worker. I reminded him that she might excel somewhere else where she was just par at the position she was in with me. As far as I know she did excel with him. I felt her to be spoiled and lazy. I am a firm believer in telling the truth and would have normally not recommended that worker.
 
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Under what circumstances would you give a good worker a bad recommendation?
By 'good worker' I assume you mean they get check marks in the right places on the evaluation form.

In that case, I would think there wouldn't be a circumstance to give a bad recommendation.
 
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By 'good worker' I assume you mean they get check marks in the right places on the evaluation form.

In that case, I would think there wouldn't be a circumstance to give a bad recommendation.

I was actually thinking about an employee that a company spent a lot of time and money training but the employee 'job-hopped' before the company could benefit from those costs. Under those circumstances I wouldn't give that person a good recommendation but would warn the prospective employer that they might have a job-hopper on their hands if they hired that person.
 
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I was actually thinking about an employee that a company spent a lot of time and money training but the employee 'job-hopped' before the company could benefit from those costs. Under those circumstances I wouldn't give that person a good recommendation but would warn the prospective employer that they might have a job-hopper on their hands if they hired that person.

Too bad the company didn't get the employee to sign a contract for a minimum amount of time before leaving in return for the training. Trump would have thought of that and then inflated the value of the training to make the length of time for work as long as possible.

If it were me, I would give the worker a good recommendation and when the new employer called to verify the recommendation I would agree that the worker was a good employee but he did leave before we got the value of our training from him/her.

That may or may not make a difference to the new employer. They may not have plans for any training.

If the company didn't have some kind of agreement for a minimum length of employment before moving on, it would be dishonest to give a bad recommendation because of something the employee didn't even agree to.
 
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Too bad the company didn't get the employee to sign a contract for a minimum amount of time before leaving in return for the training. Trump would have thought of that and then inflated the value of the training to make the length of time for work as long as possible.

If it were me, I would give the worker a good recommendation and when the new employer called to verify the recommendation I would agree that the worker was a good employee but he did leave before we got the value of our training from him/her.

That may or may not make a difference to the new employer. They may not have plans for any training.

If the company didn't have some kind of agreement for a minimum length of employment before moving on, it would be dishonest to give a bad recommendation because of something the employee didn't even agree to.

I agree that the companies should address this issue up front. Job hopping is a big problem for many companies.
 
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I agree that the companies should address this issue up front. Job hopping is a big problem for many companies.
I've not been in the job market for a while, but from what I read, job hopping is a problem which is more the fault of the company than it is of the employee. The 'many companies' you reference are likely the ones who try to hire on the cheap and maintain cultures which make employees uncomfortable.
 
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Isn't "job hopping" how the much touted free market is supposed to work, with employers offering jobs and employees taking the best jobs they can get?

Or are you advocating some sort of employee socialism?
 
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Isn't "job hopping" how the much touted free market is supposed to work, with employers offering jobs and employees taking the best jobs they can get?

Or are you advocating some sort of employee socialism?

I think employees should stay long enough to be worthwhile to the employer, and to become proficient in their assigned position. If they do this everyone wins.
 
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