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<blockquote data-quote="Blindwatchmaker" data-source="post: 75797721" data-attributes="member: 433382"><p>A couple of observations if I might:</p><p>1) Someone putting their life on the line to selflessly die to save or protect another is indeed an act of heroism.</p><p>Someone offering to be murdered in an act of substitutionary atonement is not analogous because it's a deliberate avoidable scenario and is capricious in nature. God could have chosen to forgive mankind without murdering himself/his son. (He's the boss right?..)</p><p></p><p>2) I've always felt claims of God's great sacrifice (John 3:16 etc) are overblown. He gave him up on a Friday and got him back on a Sunday. It's basically like a Blockbuster rental. <em>Where is the sacrifice?</em></p><p>What exactly did God lose?</p><p></p><p>I know people who have lost children and I've watched them grieve for decades. THAT is real loss.</p><p>They would have been very happy to get their child back after a weekend.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Blindwatchmaker, post: 75797721, member: 433382"] A couple of observations if I might: 1) Someone putting their life on the line to selflessly die to save or protect another is indeed an act of heroism. Someone offering to be murdered in an act of substitutionary atonement is not analogous because it's a deliberate avoidable scenario and is capricious in nature. God could have chosen to forgive mankind without murdering himself/his son. (He's the boss right?..) 2) I've always felt claims of God's great sacrifice (John 3:16 etc) are overblown. He gave him up on a Friday and got him back on a Sunday. It's basically like a Blockbuster rental. [I]Where is the sacrifice?[/I] What exactly did God lose? I know people who have lost children and I've watched them grieve for decades. THAT is real loss. They would have been very happy to get their child back after a weekend. [/QUOTE]
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