God - Where Are you?

[MichaelFJF]

Where is God in all of this?

Dear God: Why didn't you save the children at:
Moses Lake, Washington 2/2/96?

Bethel, Alaska 2/19/97?

Pearl, Mississippi 10/1/97?

West Paducah, Kentucky 12/1/97?

Stamps, Arkansas 12/15/97?

Jonesboro, Arkansas 3/24/98?

Edinboro, Pennsylvania 4/24/98?

Fayetteville, Tennessee 5/19/98?

Springfield, Oregon 5/21/98?

Richmond, Virginia 6/15/98?

Littleton, Colorado 4/20/99?

Taber, Alberta, Canada 5/28/99?

Conyers, Georgia 5/20/99?

Deming, New Mexico 11/19/99?

Fort Gibson, Oklahoma 12/6/99?

Santee, California 3/5/01 and

El Cajon, California 3/22/01 ?




Sincerely, Concerned Student

Reply:
Dear Concerned Student:

I am not allowed in schools.
Sincerely, God

 

[praying]

There is no guarantee that allwoing religion in school would have prevented any of those tragedies.

 

[Faithful83]

That pretty much sums it up, doesn't it?

 

[Blessed75]

There is no guarantee that allwoing religion in school would have prevented any of those tragedies.

True (IMO) but I agree 100% with the sentiment of the OP. Good job!

 

[Faithful83]

There is no guarantee that allwoing religion in school would have prevented any of those tragedies.

On one hand, that's true, but on the other hand, maybe there were some unsaved people that might have had salvation had God been allowed in the schools.

 

[praying]

Does anyone know how many kids in total that list represents, it's an ugly thought it but does add to the starkness of the events, even if having religion in school is not a guarantee of prevention.

 

[Blessed75]

Does anyone know how many kids in total that list represents, it's an ugly thought it but does add to the starkness of the events, even if having religion in school is not a guarantee of prevention.

To be honest with you, I don't even want to know..........it's just heartbreaking.

 

[Faithful83]

That's a really sad thought...

 

[ZaraDurden]

So, since we do not have school enforced religion, god has no power over what goes on in schools?

Pretty sad for an infinite, omnipotent god.

 

[elanor]

Reply:
Dear Concerned Student:

I am not allowed in schools.
Sincerely, God

Garbage. Extracurricular Bible studies and prayer groups meet in schools all over this country--as they should. Just because there isn't prayer in the classroom or because science classes teach science principles instead of faith lessons or whatever the latest "They're removing God from our schools!" outcry happens to be, does not mean that God is not present.

And by the way, God is present everywhere and always. Tell the family of the student at Columbine who was shot because she declared her faith that God wasn't with her then. Shame on you for diminishing these tragedies to make your own little political statement.

 

[theseed]

We can't blame God, if we believers are there, then God lives in us, and we have an obligation to seek to minister to all and bring peace into this world. The government is not keeping Christians out of schools.

 

[sparklecat]

The government is not even attempting to keep Christianity out of schools either. In your own time, not sponsored by the school, you can worship whatever you want (minus in a way that infringes on the rights of others).


What more would you like?

 

[Gunny]

True (IMO) but I agree 100% with the sentiment of the OP. Good job!

Amen.

 

[AdJesumPerMariam]

Maybe its time we, as Christians, stand up and make sure God is allowed in schools! Teachers are not allowed to speak of God. Christmas is not allowed in schools anymore, neither is Easter. There are kids who have not a clue who Jesus is or what He did. If its true that 86% of our country are professing Christians, then it should be a done deal. It's the squeaky wheel that gets the grease. So lets be the squeaky wheel.

Love-n-Blessings
dee

 

[theseed]

The government is not even attempting to keep Christianity out of schools either. In your own time, not sponsored by the school, you can worship whatever you want (minus in a way that infringes on the rights of others).


What more would you like?

There have been cases where the "higher powers" did not allow a little girl to pray over lunch or bring her bible to shcool.

 

[ZaraDurden]

There have been cases where the "higher powers" did not allow a little girl to pray over lunch or bring her bible to shcool.

Then the "higher powers" were wrong (thats possible, you know) and that was an injustice. Hopefully it was straightened out.

Still, those cases are the exception and not representative of the norm.

 

[ZaraDurden]

Maybe its time we, as Christians, stand up and make sure God is allowed in schools! Teachers are not allowed to speak of God. Christmas is not allowed in schools anymore, neither is Easter. There are kids who have not a clue who Jesus is or what He did. If its true that 86% of our country are professing Christians, then it should be a done deal. It's the squeaky wheel that gets the grease. So lets be the squeaky wheel.

Love-n-Blessings
dee

But you must keep in mind that you are talking about religion and morality here. How can we determine what morality or religion is the best? There is no way to judge--we have merely biased opinions on the subject. Who cares the percent of the population that is christians? That doesnt make christianity anymore true or right. The best way to go about this is for government to be neutral to ALL religions.

Seriously, people complain that teachers aren't allowed to lead christian prayers in class. Are teachers allowed to lead muslim prayers? Or satanic prayers? No! You are being treated fairly.

 

[elanor]

Maybe its time we, as Christians, stand up and make sure God is allowed in schools! Teachers are not allowed to speak of God. Christmas is not allowed in schools anymore, neither is Easter. There are kids who have not a clue who Jesus is or what He did. If its true that 86% of our country are professing Christians, then it should be a done deal. It's the squeaky wheel that gets the grease. So lets be the squeaky wheel.

Love-n-Blessings
dee

OKay, what if we do say teachers should be allowed to talk about God in the classroom? Remember, this is the PUBLIC school we're talking about--not a Christian school. Many of those teachers are not Christian. What is the teacher going to tell the kids about God? Will we now have a standard theology and every teacher who talks about God will have to stick to that? Whose theology will we use? Christian, I assume, since you want Christians to be the squeaky wheel. But we can't even agree on everything (the truth of which is obvious all over this board). Will it be protestant or Catholic theology that is taught? What about the Jewish students? The Muslim students? Do they get any say in this? Do they get to share what they believe, too?

Can't you see what a problem this is? What if the teacher is telling the kids something about God that YOU don't agree with? You, as a good Christian, know what you want your child to be taught. You march right down and have a little discussion with the teacher, the principal, whoever. So does your neighbor, who happens to believe something very different about God. If you want your child taught in the classroom what you believe about God, then send your child to a Christian school that teaches what you believe. Don't try to force a PUBLIC school teacher to teach your faith for you.

Kids ARE allowed to study the Bible and have prayer groups at schools. They just have to do it as part of an extracurricular group--and I think that's absolutely appropriate. And I know for a fact that this is the case, because until a few years ago (when I moved too far away), I went during the evening a couple of times a month to a middle school where one of the pastors and some folks from our church held a youth meeting in the school cafeteria. HUNDREDS of kids came to every meeting. This public school opened it's doors to us AFTER SCHOOL HOURS, all the kids in school knew about it, they showed up in droves, and many came to know the Lord.

By the way, if you think kids in this country don't know about God, there's a lot that YOU can do about that. Get involved in outreach, start working with kids, and stop trying to force public school teachers to do your job for you. They have all they can do to just be able to educate these kids--don't force them to do the job of the church, too.

 

[Routerider]

Maybe its time we, as Christians, stand up and make sure God is allowed in schools! Teachers are not allowed to speak of God. Christmas is not allowed in schools anymore, neither is Easter. There are kids who have not a clue who Jesus is or what He did. If its true that 86% of our country are professing Christians, then it should be a done deal. It's the squeaky wheel that gets the grease. So lets be the squeaky wheel.

Love-n-Blessings
dee

This country wasn't intended to be a theocracy and for good reason. From what I recall God is in your heart..you can take Him wherever you want...including school. Christianity is NOT the official religion of America...there is no such thing.

 

[AdJesumPerMariam]

OKay, what if we do say teachers should be allowed to talk about God in the classroom? Remember, this is the PUBLIC school we're talking about--not a Christian school. Many of those teachers are not Christian. What is the teacher going to tell the kids about God? Will we now have a standard theology and every teacher who talks about God will have to stick to that? Whose theology will we use? Christian, I assume, since you want Christians to be the squeaky wheel. But we can't even agree on everything (the truth of which is obvious all over this board). Will it be protestant or Catholic theology that is taught? What about the Jewish students? The Muslim students? Do they get any say in this? Do they get to share what they believe, too?

Can't you see what a problem this is? What if the teacher is telling the kids something about God that YOU don't agree with? You, as a good Christian, know what you want your child to be taught. You march right down and have a little discussion with the teacher, the principal, whoever. So does your neighbor, who happens to believe something very different about God. If you want your child taught in the classroom what you believe about God, then send your child to a Christian school that teaches what you believe. Don't try to force a PUBLIC school teacher to teach your faith for you.

Kids ARE allowed to study the Bible and have prayer groups at schools. They just have to do it as part of an extracurricular group--and I think that's absolutely appropriate. And I know for a fact that this is the case, because until a few years ago (when I moved too far away), I went during the evening a couple of times a month to a middle school where one of the pastors and some folks from our church held a youth meeting in the school cafeteria. HUNDREDS of kids came to every meeting. This public school opened it's doors to us AFTER SCHOOL HOURS, all the kids in school knew about it, they showed up in droves, and many came to know the Lord.

By the way, if you think kids in this country don't know about God, there's a lot that YOU can do about that. Get involved in outreach, start working with kids, and stop trying to force public school teachers to do your job for you. They have all they can do to just be able to educate these kids--don't force them to do the job of the church, too.

I am doing something about it. My husband & I run a non profit. We assist people with food, clothes, rent, utilities, etc...etc...We are also starting a witnessing class to help teach people not to be afraid to witness. We talk to people on a very continuous basis. We also take people in....

We had a foster child that did a report on the Bible...and she was asked to do another one...If you pull your child out of school "for religious reasons" it's unexcused. Teachers can speak of evolution, and thats OK. I went to a highschool where one of the classes was 'Witchcraft & the Devil'. Nope, no Bible classes, though.

I send The Hatch Ammendment to school with my grandchildren who go to school.

Love-n-Blessings
dee