from sandmans earlier post
Genesis 1:1 & 2
1: In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2: And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters
Dinosaurs, and all of the so called evolution lies (double meaning) in what ever took place between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2.
How long a period of time that was, I dont know I will leave that up to the experts.
The first was in verse 2. should be translated became {In the Estrangelo Aramaic and Hebrew there was no verb to be however there was the verb to become} the second was in verse 2. was added in translation, you can leave it in, or take it out, it wont change the Word any.
The earth became without from and void, God did not create it that way.
What cataclysmic happening caused the Earth to become without form and void {tohu va bohu}
What about the fossils, are they human, as we know humans?
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Isiah 45:18 Tells us that the Heavens and Earth were not created
tohu va bohu without form and void
18:
For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.
Now specifically the Bible does not state when the when the world became without form and void. But by putting the pieces of the Word together there was only one cataclysmic happening that ensued; a war in heaven as Revelation 12:7 states, in which Lucifer, and one third of the angles tried to usurp the throne of God. Isaiah, Ezekiel, Revelation, and other scriptures add to this.
So what was there before there was man as we know it. The scientists have concluded that prehistoric life is the same life as we have today
not so. For whatever it as that mobilized prehistoric man and animals is not the same
life as we know today, or from the time of Adam. Why? Because God did not create
soul life until Genesis 1:21.
Soul, or soul life is that which give a person /animals, life breath life.
According to the Bible soul had nothing to do whether you are a Christian or not, it is simply that which gives life to a persons body; there is no immortality to the soul.
Genesis 1
:30
And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
:20
And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
The words life are the words nepesh = soul
:21
And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good
:24
And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
2:19
And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
the word creature is the word nepesh= soul
the word living is the word chai meaning moving soul or moving life nepesh chai is always used as living life or living soul.
Where is the soul?
Leviticus 17:11 states.
The life of the flesh is in the blood
The word life is nepesh = soul
So whatever it was that mobilized creatures or prehistoric man prior to Genesis 1:2 was not the soul life {blood} as we know it today.
In our minds we see the fossilized remains of prehistoric man, and assume that they were man just like us, but God is not limited to what we think.
Even though it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, whatever mobilized those prehistoric ducks is not what mobilizes us little ducklings today. I do not know what it was, but I do know what it wasnt, it wasnt the
soul life that you and I have today.
Soooo why am I talking about farm animals? I have no idea
anyhow
Why is it not the same soul life that we have today?
Good question, glad I asked that
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Because once something is created by God, it need not be created again.
To create
{bara} means to get something out of nothing.
Man uses this word create all the time, but in the true sense man cannot create. He can make, fabricate, build, generate formulate, alter, etc but he cannot create something out of nothing; he always has to start with something.
God created in Genesis 1:1 and did not need to create again until Genesis 1:21 when he created {
bara} great whales and every living
creature =
nepesh =
soul that moveth.
Prior to verse 21 when God was putting the earth back together in the
literal 6 days, God just had to speak it,
because those things already existed prior to Genesis 1:2 when the earth became without form and void {tohu va bohu}.
If soul life had already been created He wouldnt have need to create it again.
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God Bless
Sandman
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from ECRob
This is why I don't believe dinosaurs existed before Adam and Eve. First of all, God tells us which day he created animals...including dinos (Genesis 1:24). Also, if dinos existed millions of years before Adam and Eve, that means that they died long before "sin". If we read the Bible, it tells us that death entered the world through the sin of one man , Adam (Romans 5:12)... God had to kill an animal to make clothes for adam and eve (Genesis 3:21). If we read God's word, death did not exist before sin. Before sin entered the world; it was pretty much perfect...like the future earth...where death doesn't exists...
ECRob
I believe that II Peter 3:5-7 answers your thinking on this matter.
II Peter 3:5-7
For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
6: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: {not speaking of the flood of Noah}
7: But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
The world that was then perished
..But the one now, is the one with sin.
God bless
sandman
