PsychoSarah
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No, I have consciously chosen to seek out information to change my philosophical views, but I haven't been very successful. I don't get to choose whether or not I find an argument to be intelligent.
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Right, you've consciously chosen to reject the view that a 'God' exists. That's not a mindless decision by you.
What information got you there in the first place? and what information is keeping you there?No, I have consciously chosen to seek out information to change my philosophical views, but I haven't been very successful.
I am not speaking for Sarah but sometimes a person is not sure of the existence of something so chooses to provisionally not believe in it. There can be a difference between not believe and disbelieve.Right, you've consciously chosen to reject the view that a 'God' exists. That's not a mindless decision by you.
No, I have consciously chosen to seek out information to change my philosophical views, but I haven't been very successful. I don't get to choose whether or not I find an argument to be intelligent.
The philosophical views you currently hold are views which you've consciously and thoughtfully embraced, aren't they? Are you suggesting that you embrace these views without reason or conscious decision?
What information got you there in the first place? and what information is keeping you there?
You act like someone who has fallen into a well and can't get out.
If you think I embrace atheism, you don't understand me very well. My own mind is my enemy on this one.
What information got you there in the first place? and what information is keeping you there?
You act like someone who has fallen into a well and can't get out.
Nope, didn't say you embrace atheism. I'm asking about the views you do embrace....or reject.
Don't you embrace, or reject, those views consciously and thoughtfully?
It is more a lack of information than anything else really.
I've been an atheist for as long essentially as I can recall even considering such theological topics, so I don't really know how it started.
That seems like an odd way of describing reality. Wouldn't it be more like standing on a mountain peak, enjoying the view, anticipating the next hike?
You guys have odd ways of portraying freedom?
Thank God, Frances Kelsey took that approach to Thalidomide.I am not speaking for Sarah but sometimes a person is not sure of the existence of something so chooses to provisionally not believe in it.
Nope, didn't say you embrace atheism. I'm asking about the views you do embrace....or reject.
Don't you embrace, or reject, those views consciously and thoughtfully?
Not entirely, and especially not in philosophical matters.
Woah!! Wait!! You're an atheist who doesn't embrace atheism? What?
You don't embrace, or reject those views consciously and thoughtfully? You're making mindless decisions on what you believe and reject?
Maybe you're waiting on the wrong bus?It is more a lack of information than anything else really.
I've been an atheist for as long essentially as I can recall even considering such theological topics, so I don't really know how it started. Maybe my earlier, oddly young personal disproving of characters such as Santa Claus killed my ability to have faith with any ease?
Sure feels that way sometimes AV. A well of darkness and despair.
Since when does someone have to actually like their beliefs in order to have them?
Nope, I'm not saying "like". As an atheist, don't you embrace atheism? By "embrace", I mean to believe in the philosophical life view.
Maybe you're waiting on the wrong bus?
I'd say subconscious more than mindless. And I not only am not consciously choosing to be atheist, I am consciously trying NOT to be, and so far failing. It is one of the reasons I find the argument "oh, all atheists really believe deep down, they just want to sin" especially insulting.
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