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God used Evolution to create man

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Euler

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Then you need to get out more, or get better glasses. Many examples are on record, both in the lab and in the field, of speciation.


Dozens? That just won't cut it. There would need to be thousands of transitional stages to justify the thousands of different species that "evolved".

The "dozens" referred to the evidence streams for the extinctions, which is what you asked for.


Na, but the spotty number of fossils for the continual evolution from single cell organisms to the vast number of species of animals and creatures we have today would have to show much more steps than what is in existence.

Given the process involved in fossilization, why?



All of those have undergone some form of evolutionary change. But even if they hadn't, so what?



How is this relevant?



Again, how is this any kind of argument? Ignorance is bliss??

You don't have to know the origins of something to gain an understanding of how it works.


Are you saying that paranormal events, ghosts, intelligent life from other dimensions, demonic activity is not a fact?

Correct.
 
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IF the only life evolution speaks of is still unexplainable by evolution, then how are you going to deal with other dimensions, the existence of a soul or spirit. How in the world are you going to explain the beginning of them too?

We don't need to explain the origins of things that aren't even demonstrated to exist.
 
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I notice that you didn't address anything I said. Why is that?
 
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In the history of man, we have not seen any new developments or changes of human men to something different.

If you watch a construction site for 5 minutes and don't see a new building appear, do you doubt the ability of man to build buildings?

Dozens? That just won't cut it. There would need to be thousands of transitional stages to justify the thousands of different species that "evolved".

And you have pulled out all of the fossils from the ground? The transitional species Tiktaalik took 3 years to find, and that was just one species. Why do you expect us to have thousands of transitional species when we have searched such a tiny, tiny portion of the fossil record?

What you do ignore is that every fossil we have found supports evolution. All of the transitionals fall into the predicted nested hierarchy. Why do you ask for more transitionals when you ignore the ones we do have?


If a lineage is well adapted there is no reason for it to change.
 
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There is nothing in Genesis that supports your claim or opinion.
 
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There is nothing in Genesis that supports your claim or opinion.
Then you tell me how the angels came into existence?

Which came first, in your opinion: abiogenesis or angels?
 
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Then you tell me how the angels came into existence?

Which came first, in your opinion: abiogenesis or angels?

First question..I don't know and neither do you(opinions do not count)
second.. Angels (my opinion is that..opinion,not definitive truth) We don't know if AG was in fact the spark of life or not,but until that theory is falsified,it is a viable option in the search for life's origins.
 
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Evolution uses science and <snip>"

Evolution IS a science.

<snip>creation uses science to back their Bible. ".

The last few hundred years has seen a rift between science and bible literalists growing larger by the year, so good luck with that idea.

Both camps use the sciences.
But in different ways...".

Agreed, creationists use science in devious ways to advocate their nonsense to the vulnerable, gullible and the uneducated.

Evolutionists are the ones that are always saying that "science proves nothing""

Only in the same sense that evidence alone proves nothing. Proof beyond reasonable doubt requires more than one component.

Nothing is certain.

If this is true then neither evolution or creation should use science to prove their idea of the origin of life and all the beings on the earth because "science proves nothing".

Evolution has never attempted to explain the origin of life, it's not meant to, that is a completely different discipline.
 
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Reproduction was not God's intention. That is a result of Sin and separation from the Father which ended special creation.
Excuse me but in every credible version of the Bible that I know of God told man to "be fruitful and multiply" BEFORE the fall.
 
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Reproduction was not God's intention. That is a result of Sin and separation from the Father which ended special creation.

That is not what God said.

Genesis 1:28:
And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
 
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Reproduction was not God's intention. That is a result of Sin and separation from the Father which ended special creation.

This statement is so preposterous I'm going to add it to my collection.
 
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This statement is so preposterous I'm going to add it to my collection.

It's interesting that someone with 1.17 posts per day would be collecting other peoples' remarks.

Almost as if you're scared someone will collect one of yours?
 
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It's interesting that someone with 1.17 posts per day would be collecting other peoples' remarks.

Almost as if you're scared someone will collect one of yours?

I post once a day? Geez I really need to get a life. Would you believe some people here post 3 or more!!!

I change my sig almost daily AV, I think I have a few from you too my friend.

Oh! I'd be flattered if someone quoted me.
 
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Beyond the species? You are dreaming or making stuff up.


Speciation:

noun, Biology
1.the formation of new species as a result of geographic, physiological, anatomical, or behavioral factors that prevent previously interbreeding populations from breeding with each other.



Species:
2.
Biology. the major subdivision of a genus or subgenus, regarded as the basic category of biological classification, composed of related individuals that resemble one another, are able to breed among themselves, but are not able to breed with members of another species.




So yes, speciation is a process that takes variation BEYOND the species level. Dictionaries are quite handy sometimes.
 
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