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<blockquote data-quote="Ligurian" data-source="post: 76767157" data-attributes="member: 434210"><p>"Papayrus P104 (P. Oxy. 4404) is a second-century papyrus fragment that contains <strong>Matt. 21:34-37 on the front, and traces of verses 43 and 45 on the back</strong>."</p><p>"Papyrus P98 (P. IFAO inv. 237b [+a]) is a manuscript fragment that contains verses from the first chapter of the book of Revelation. It was copied circa A.D. 100-200, likely in Egypt.9 The manuscript was first published by Guy Wagner in 1971, who dated it to the second century. He did not recognize that it was a biblical text, however, and it wasn’t until 20 years later that Dieter Hagedorn identified it as coming from <strong>Rev. 1:13-20</strong>."</p><p>"P52 comes from a codex (ie. book form, not a scroll) and contains parts of seven lines from the <strong>John 18:31–33 on the front, and parts of seven lines from verses 37–38 on the back</strong>."</p><p><a href="https://biblearchaeologyreport.com/2019/02/15/the-earliest-new-testament-manuscripts/" target="_blank">The Earliest New Testament Manuscripts</a></p><p></p><p>The first ancient fragment links us to the Matthew 21:33 parable... the Father is the householder... οἰκοδεσπότης "master of the house"... and Iesus is the Son.</p><p></p><p>Matthew 21:34-37 [34] And when the time of the fruit drew near, He sent His servants to the husbandmen, that they might receive the fruits of it.[35] And the husbandmen took His servants, and beat one, and killed another, and stoned another.[36] Again, He sent other servants more than the first: and they did unto them likewise.[37] But last of all He sent unto them His Son, saying, They will reverence My Son. ...[43] Therefore say I unto you, The Kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. ...[45] And when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard His parables, they perceived that He spake of them.</p><p></p><p>Second ancient fragment from the link:</p><p></p><p>Revelation 1:13-20 [13] And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.[14] His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;[15] And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.[16] And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.[17] And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:[18] I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.[19] Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;[20] The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.</p><p></p><p>Third ancient fragment from the link:</p><p></p><p>John 18:31-38 [31] Then said Pilate unto them, Take ye him, and judge him according to your law. The Jews therefore said unto him, It is not lawful for us to put any man to death:[32] That the saying of Iesus might be fulfilled, which he spake, signifying what death he should die.[33] Then Pilate entered into the judgment hall again, and called Iesus, and said unto him, Art thou the King of the Jews? ...[37] Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Iesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the Truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.[38] Pilate saith unto him, What is truth? And when he had said this, he went out again unto the Jews, and saith unto them, I find in him no fault at all.</p><p></p><p>Iesus says His Father's word is truth, John 17:17... so Iesus came to bear witness to the Father. John 12:49-50 says the words He spoke are really the Father's words.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ligurian, post: 76767157, member: 434210"] "Papayrus P104 (P. Oxy. 4404) is a second-century papyrus fragment that contains [B]Matt. 21:34-37 on the front, and traces of verses 43 and 45 on the back[/B]." "Papyrus P98 (P. IFAO inv. 237b [+a]) is a manuscript fragment that contains verses from the first chapter of the book of Revelation. It was copied circa A.D. 100-200, likely in Egypt.9 The manuscript was first published by Guy Wagner in 1971, who dated it to the second century. He did not recognize that it was a biblical text, however, and it wasn’t until 20 years later that Dieter Hagedorn identified it as coming from [B]Rev. 1:13-20[/B]." "P52 comes from a codex (ie. book form, not a scroll) and contains parts of seven lines from the [B]John 18:31–33 on the front, and parts of seven lines from verses 37–38 on the back[/B]." [URL='https://biblearchaeologyreport.com/2019/02/15/the-earliest-new-testament-manuscripts/']The Earliest New Testament Manuscripts[/URL] The first ancient fragment links us to the Matthew 21:33 parable... the Father is the householder... οἰκοδεσπότης "master of the house"... and Iesus is the Son. Matthew 21:34-37 [34] And when the time of the fruit drew near, He sent His servants to the husbandmen, that they might receive the fruits of it.[35] And the husbandmen took His servants, and beat one, and killed another, and stoned another.[36] Again, He sent other servants more than the first: and they did unto them likewise.[37] But last of all He sent unto them His Son, saying, They will reverence My Son. ...[43] Therefore say I unto you, The Kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. ...[45] And when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard His parables, they perceived that He spake of them. Second ancient fragment from the link: Revelation 1:13-20 [13] And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.[14] His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;[15] And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.[16] And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.[17] And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:[18] I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.[19] Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;[20] The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches. Third ancient fragment from the link: John 18:31-38 [31] Then said Pilate unto them, Take ye him, and judge him according to your law. The Jews therefore said unto him, It is not lawful for us to put any man to death:[32] That the saying of Iesus might be fulfilled, which he spake, signifying what death he should die.[33] Then Pilate entered into the judgment hall again, and called Iesus, and said unto him, Art thou the King of the Jews? ...[37] Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Iesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the Truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.[38] Pilate saith unto him, What is truth? And when he had said this, he went out again unto the Jews, and saith unto them, I find in him no fault at all. Iesus says His Father's word is truth, John 17:17... so Iesus came to bear witness to the Father. John 12:49-50 says the words He spoke are really the Father's words. [/QUOTE]
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